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0 pointsuser-the-name4y ago0 comments

Renault Twingo III gets 66 mpg, while having much more space and being generally more useful.

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ppf4y ago

Yep, there are modern engines that will do that. I was using the example of an older engine, because they are generally much more fixable (which was OP's original point).

user-the-nameOP4y ago

But my point is, the equivalent today gets a lot better milage, and the reason why has lots to do with why it is not fixable.

ppf4y ago

Yes, modern engines are optimised for fuel and emissions efficiency to within an inch of their lives. This was my entire point - we could move a couple of people in a Fiat 500 and get 43mpg, in 1957. Without the incentives I mentioned in my first post, we could easily make an engine much more efficient than that, and fixable.

ppf4y ago

As you ignored my comment on our other discussion, and continue the conversation here - I also assume you have electric heating and hot water at your house. After all, everyone needs to do everything possible to reduce fossil fuel usage, right?

busterarm4y ago

But it's so much more complex than the 50+ year old Fiat 500 that the home mechanic can no longer work on it.

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ppf4y ago

Yep, there are modern engines that will do that. I was using the example of an older engine, because they are generally much more fixable (which was OP's original point).

user-the-nameOP4y ago

But my point is, the equivalent today gets a lot better milage, and the reason why has lots to do with why it is not fixable.

ppf4y ago

busterarm4y ago

But it's so much more complex than the 50+ year old Fiat 500 that the home mechanic can no longer work on it.

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