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> [...] but the semantics of this seemingly "declarative" configuration was never properly specified.

What's missing from docs like [0] that makes you say that?

[0] https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.uni...

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I know so very little of systemd as it doesn't touch anything I do.

I can pattern match that https://blog.darknedgy.net/technology/2015/10/11/0/ - "Structural and semantic deficiencies in the systemd architecture for real-world service management, a technical treatise" from six years ago (Discussion at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10370348 ) might be relevant.

Are those points reasonable? Dunno. If so, have they been addressed? No clue.

zozbot2344y ago

https://blog.darknedgy.net/technology/2020/05/02/0/ is a 2020 post from the same blog, pointing out that these issues basically remain unaddressed. But again, this is not just some "anti-systemd" talking point; the pro-systemd side also acknowledges this! They just think sysv-init was even worse.

zxzax4y ago

I honestly would like to see a better service manager than systemd, but just my opinion from following development of these things: a huge reason why it can't happen comes from underlying deficiencies in the kernel, and with Unix. The real core issues can't be addressed without a large amount of changes there, which are outside the control of a service manager.

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