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0 pointscbsmith4y ago0 comments

"forcing" isn't the right word though. They do have an opt-out. Making it an opt-out vs. an opt-in is very much "the former".

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dathinab4y ago

Given that most people won't even know what is happening without their consent it's not that different from forcing.

Opt-out is NOT consent, consent requires you do know about it, at least somewhat understand it and then "say yes". Opt-out it's more like forcing with a way to defend yourself.

cbsmithOP4y ago

I didn't say that opt-out is consent... and no opt-out is opt-out, and forcing is forcing.

Can you imagine how silly it would sound to talk about all the "forcing" that MacOS and Windows do that you can change by going in to settings and changing it? Indeed, Apple has famously made tons of decisions for their users about what the reasonable defaults might be, and is praised for this; no one calls it forcing.

I get it. I don't like the defaults either. That doesn't mean you can just slap on whatever word has negative connotations and say that's what is happening.

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