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0 pointsvoxadam5y ago0 comments

Well, one and a half; I don't think #freenode counts (for obvious reasons) and #forth is bridged into #forth at libera.chat. The only channel left on that list of three is #techrights which I'm not personally familiar with.

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phoe-krk5y ago· 3 in thread

Regarding #techrights, reading some of the comments from http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-290521.htm... aimed at libera.chat gives me the real creeps. They seem to come from a person and/or people who have a black-and-white vision of some aspects of the world to the point of sheer fanaticism. It's scary.

Some "mentionworthy" quotes:

> Libera chat: yeah, let's just show how "liber" we are by outsourcing our 1) site code 2) site hosting 3) projects to a bunch of criminals who badmouth and bribe to undermine #freesw

> The free in #freenode stands for freedom. The Liber in Libera Chat stands for (neo) liberal.

> Libera chat is all #microsoft (technially), except the IRC daemons.

> Libre chat: we don't know how to set up and manage a git server (funny that, even I can do that... with little experience) but trust us to run a whole IRC network...

> All you mindless fanatics who flock over to libera.chat (185.199.110.153), be aware that they have outsourced to #microsoft #proprietarySoftware #monopoly ( cdn-185-199-110-153.github.com ). So they don't exactly value freedom or "libera"... it's just shallow rhetoric. Because it's an ego think against #freenode

If that's one of the main channels performing Freenode support, I'm getting convinced that I made a good move by jumping off Freenode.

swiley5y ago

Some of that is moderately disturbing but I think if there's anything we can learn from this episode it's that the company running the network barely matters provided they're not just kicking everyone for some reason.

phoe-krk5y ago

Agreed. The main role of the network, as with any service provider, is being transparent to the functioning of the communities that use that service. Disturbances in the service's functioning are the main things that break that transparency, and calling the hurricane that turned Freenode into Leenode a "disturbance" is greatly understating the impact that it had.

Havoc5y ago

>The Liber in Libera Chat stands for (neo) liberal.

oh wow

zatertip5y ago

To be fair, it will always be easier to find news about something that did happen than about something that didn't :-)

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