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0 pointsceejayoz4y ago0 comments

> Is this because the US is so insanely litigious?

Part of it is the weird setup of jury trials for civil cases, especially impactful in cases revolving around fairly technical, detail-oriented stuff like malpractice.

Twelve randomly selected lay people may not be the best determiners of scientific evidence and in-depth statistical analysis.

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linuxftw4y ago

It's enough to put people to death, so it should be enough for everything else.

ceejayozOP4y ago

Twelve randomly selected lay people shouldn't get to decide to allow the State to kill people, either.

linuxftw4y ago

No argument here. I was just point out how trivial our systems are, and we still kill other humans based on the feelings other humans.

seiferteric4y ago

At least that requires unanimous decisions vs civil cases where it just has to be the majority.

ceejayozOP4y ago

The legal standard for a conviction/judgement also changes, from "beyond a reasonable doubt" in criminal to "preponderance of the evidence" in civil- i.e. 99.9% certainty becomes 51% certainty.

nitwit0054y ago

Every criminal case involves more than a jury. The prosecutor has to decide to bring charges, judge has to accept the case, etc. Death penalty cases are more involved. I've sat through the automatic appeals that were part of California's process.

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0 pointsceejayoz4y ago0 comments

> Is this because the US is so insanely litigious?

Part of it is the weird setup of jury trials for civil cases, especially impactful in cases revolving around fairly technical, detail-oriented stuff like malpractice.

Twelve randomly selected lay people may not be the best determiners of scientific evidence and in-depth statistical analysis.

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linuxftw4y ago

It's enough to put people to death, so it should be enough for everything else.

ceejayozOP4y ago

Twelve randomly selected lay people shouldn't get to decide to allow the State to kill people, either.

linuxftw4y ago

No argument here. I was just point out how trivial our systems are, and we still kill other humans based on the feelings other humans.

seiferteric4y ago

At least that requires unanimous decisions vs civil cases where it just has to be the majority.

ceejayozOP4y ago

The legal standard for a conviction/judgement also changes, from "beyond a reasonable doubt" in criminal to "preponderance of the evidence" in civil- i.e. 99.9% certainty becomes 51% certainty.

nitwit0054y ago

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