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0 pointsculturestate5y ago0 comments

So you're saying that it's alright if people commit fraud, as long as it's in an industry that you don't much care about?

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osrec5y ago· 4 in thread

Not exactly. I just think the materialistic culture such products perpetuate does more harm than good.

culturestateOP5y ago

That may be true, but it still sidesteps the whole "they're committing fraud" thing.

It's not like LVMH or the glitterati that shop in the back room of an Hermés boutique are the ones who get hurt, either. It's the indie designers and the normal people who save up to buy something nice for themselves who pay for it.

inopinatus5y ago

the fakes are produced without any supply-chain transparency, so there’s no-one to pressure over using sweatshops, non-renewable materials, toxic production chemicals.

but hey, pretty bag is cheaper, that’s what mattered?

if you want to stop humans wanting the pretty bag at all, good luck. that’s a hiding to nothing, right there.

osrec5y ago

My extended family is responsible for manufacturing a selection of these "luxury" goods, for the official brands. Unfortunately, the supply chain is not quite as clean and ethical as you envisage... Sweatshops are involved in the production of the $20k bags too (or at least the subcomponents).

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kortilla5y ago

If you think designer handbags have any relationship to ethics or sustainability, guess again.

toast05y ago· 2 in thread

Doesn't have to be fraud to be a good counterfeit. It could be sold honestly as a counterfeit.

culturestateOP5y ago

I'm not a lawyer, but this just seems like a different kind of fraud - two parties knowingly engaged in a transaction involving counterfeit products, where the victim is the original designer rather than the buyer.

toast05y ago

It's probably a trademark violation, and maybe copyrights and patents do depending on the specific facts, but I wouldn't call those fraud.

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