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0 pointsArkanExplorer4y ago0 comments

Australia awards citizenship extremely generously. You only need to be living in the country for four years (which can be as an international student), there is no income test, no employment test, no language test, no requirement to give up your prior citizenship.

The 'Australians' in India are citizens of opportunity, who were born in India and retain their citizenship there, and the sympathy for them from actual Australians is zero.

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nessex4y ago

As an Australian citizen, I have plenty of sympathy for those who have dual/multiple citizenship. They've been treated particularly harshly by both the federal government and their fellow Australian citizens. Some notes:

- There is an income test for permanent residency, which is required for most pathways to citizenship. Apart from family-stream visas which require a direct relationship with an Australian citizen, most visas eligible for permanent residency are work-related and you won't get one of those without an income test[1].

- There is an employment test, as above

- There is a language test, see the section on Language Ability[2], this has been a significant bottleneck for personal friends who speak English perfectly well

- Student visas don't make you eligible for permanent residency, let alone citizenship[2]

- Australia's community values explicitly state that dual/multiple citizenship doesn't exempt you from being Australian[3]

- Australia's pathways to citizenship (via PR, work visa etc.) are some of the most expensive and time-consuming in the world

[1] https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/permanent-resident/vis...

[2] https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/citizenship/become-a-citizen...

[3] https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/citizenship-subsite/Pages/Le...

naturalauction4y ago

>The 'Australians' in India are citizens of opportunity, who were born in India and retain their citizenship there, and the sympathy for them from actual Australians is zero.

India doesn't recognize dual citizenship, while Australia might not require you to give up your prior citizenship, India will if you want to become Australian. [0] You can become an "Overseas Citizen of India" but this is just a permanent visa that can be revoked at any time and does not confer voting rights. [1]

[0] https://india.embassy.gov.au/ndli/dualnlty.htm

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/08/india-strips-c...

jpmoral4y ago

This isn't accurate.

There is a citizenship test, and as I understand it some level of English proficiency is required. The residency requirement is four years, at least one as a permanent resident. Permanent residency, depending on the stream, has its own skill, employment, and English proficiency requirements.

As for how 'actual Australians' feel, this is a complex issue with questions on a lot of axes. People's opinions are going to be varied and nuanced.

ithkuil4y ago

I assume the way actual Australians feel is also in part fueled by disinformation, that reinforces the natural human xenophobic predispositions.

It's so easy to come up with bullshit, yet it takes time to debunk it.

Feeding disinformation to the public and then using their reaction to justify their reaction is circular. "I tell you, others in your group believe members of the other group are doing something wring. If enough of you believe what I told you, I'm not lying by definition, because now you do indeed believe that."

tiew9Vii4y ago

I am not sure where you are getting your information from, I assure you it’s far from the correct.

I suggest a visit to https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-fi... and do some research in to visa options from the source of truth not a tabloid newspaper and read the requirements, processing times and the money involved.

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