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0 pointsRHSeeger5y ago0 comments

> Forcing freelancers into W-2 status is just another example of the government screwing people over "for their own good".

It's the government screwing _some_ people over for the good of everyone else, where it's presumed that "good of everyone else" is worth more to society than what is lost by those that get screwed over by it.

At least, that's generally the intent.

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thereisnospork5y ago

Considering that the people it was supposed to help are being fired every 2 years for 6 months I'd say the governments plan to help some people hasn't and caught people like the GP in the crossfire. Quelle surprise.

yaml-ops-guy5y ago

I’m very glad we’re only screwing over “some” people, good to have that cleared up, thank you for that...it’s still an abominable practice to put any amount of laborers through.

RHSeegerOP5y ago

Are you of the belief that there are a set of policies/laws that result in everyone being happy and nobody being screwed over? Such a thing is not realistic. Every system of laws results in some people suffering for the benefit of others. The better law system result in less suffering for more benefit.

threatofrain5y ago

Government policy is inherently concerned with those kinds of moral tradeoffs. Vaccines and lockdowns naturally pose such questions.

walshemj5y ago

Its more having a fake second class worker which benefits massively the employer and not real self employed people.

syshum5y ago

Ahh the old "Greater Good", the most evil phrase in the English Language

Anyone attempting to do anything for "the greater good" should be viewed with suspicion and disrespect as most at best what they are attempting to do no matter the intent will fail and harm more people than it will help

At worst is it just a shield to cover their immoral actions, or thirst for power

Every person that values freedom, individuality, and prosperity should reject any policy or law that is based on a "greater good" narrative

Goronmon5y ago

Every person that values freedom, individuality, and prosperity should reject any policy or law that is based on a "greater good" narrative

So pretty much all laws and policies? Anarchy doesn't seem that sustainable.

mstipetic5y ago

I don’t understand why all the staunch libertarians just don’t move to a favela or some other similar place where they can enjoy absolute freedoms

dantheman5y ago

Why don't people that want all these new things move to where they already exist?

syshum5y ago

In Response to this common statement we have 2 video responses

You Can Always Leave ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fasTSY-dB-s )

Why Libertarianism Is So Dangerous ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbNFJK1ZpVg )

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throwaways8855y ago

> Every person that values freedom, individuality, and prosperity should reject any policy or law that is based on a "greater good" narrative

Curious what you think about COVID lockdowns then

syshum5y ago

Should be very clear, I oppose government mandated lock downs.

0xEFF5y ago

Seems selfish. Lockdowns reduce deaths.

Edit: I don’t mean to call anyone names, genuinely interested in understanding if you’re concerned about being perceived as selfish and if so how you reconcile the tension?

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SiempreViernes5y ago

What do you think about defence spending?

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thereisnospork5y ago

yaml-ops-guy5y ago

I’m very glad we’re only screwing over “some” people, good to have that cleared up, thank you for that...it’s still an abominable practice to put any amount of laborers through.

RHSeegerOP5y ago

threatofrain5y ago

Government policy is inherently concerned with those kinds of moral tradeoffs. Vaccines and lockdowns naturally pose such questions.

walshemj5y ago

Its more having a fake second class worker which benefits massively the employer and not real self employed people.

syshum5y ago

Ahh the old "Greater Good", the most evil phrase in the English Language

At worst is it just a shield to cover their immoral actions, or thirst for power

Every person that values freedom, individuality, and prosperity should reject any policy or law that is based on a "greater good" narrative

Goronmon5y ago

Every person that values freedom, individuality, and prosperity should reject any policy or law that is based on a "greater good" narrative

So pretty much all laws and policies? Anarchy doesn't seem that sustainable.

mstipetic5y ago

I don’t understand why all the staunch libertarians just don’t move to a favela or some other similar place where they can enjoy absolute freedoms

dantheman5y ago

Why don't people that want all these new things move to where they already exist?

syshum5y ago

In Response to this common statement we have 2 video responses

You Can Always Leave ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fasTSY-dB-s )

Why Libertarianism Is So Dangerous ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbNFJK1ZpVg )

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throwaways8855y ago

> Every person that values freedom, individuality, and prosperity should reject any policy or law that is based on a "greater good" narrative

Curious what you think about COVID lockdowns then

syshum5y ago

Should be very clear, I oppose government mandated lock downs.

0xEFF5y ago

Seems selfish. Lockdowns reduce deaths.

Edit: I don’t mean to call anyone names, genuinely interested in understanding if you’re concerned about being perceived as selfish and if so how you reconcile the tension?

1 more reply

SiempreViernes5y ago

What do you think about defence spending?

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