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0 pointsRyEgswuCsn5y ago0 comments

I don't get it. Won't your logic imply that all locksmiths are trespassers now? Because, you know, they have unauthorized access to most premises secured by locks.

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throwaway4china5y ago· 2 in thread

No, just the locksmiths with a bad reputation.

Would you hire a locksmith if he had a record of stalking people?

RyEgswuCsnOP5y ago

I probably won't. Has this particular locksmith (Huawei) been shown to stalk people? Who are the people that accused the locksmith of stalking? Are they competitors? Should I trust their words?

throwaway4china5y ago

Huawei is a Chinese corporation. Legally it must report data to the CCP when requested.

The CCP is known to commit human rights violations, especially against it's Uighurs population.

Providing data to them is furthering these human rights violations.

Yes you can say other countries spy on citizens, but what the country does with the data is an important distinction.

Furthermore, there's usually a judicial process to request this data in other countries.

A warrant is needed from a judge, and even still any action must go through the legal process. Such is not true for the CCP.

From political dissent to being a minority can be your crime, there is no jury, there is no trial.

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NicoJuicy5y ago· 2 in thread

It's more like a locksmith that comes into your house when you didn't call this time. And installed the first time they came, a device to check everyone that comes in ( since they discovered an Chinese application that listens to phone calls)

> En ze doen nog een ernstige ontdekking. De zes Chinese medewerkers werken met een programma dat hen in staat stelt om elk telefoongesprek dat via KPN gaat mee te luisteren. Ook dat is in strijd met afspraken. Deze mogelijkheid houdt in dat Huawei-medewerkers waar ook ter wereld KPN-nummers kunnen meeluisteren. Dat betekent dat ze delen van het gesprek of het hele gesprek kunnen volgen zonder dat de bellers of iemand bij KPN op de hoogte is.

> Huawei heeft contractueel de mogelijkheid om voor kwaliteitsdoeleinden een gesprek kortstondig – enkele seconden – te volgen, dat heet inluisteren. Het hele gesprek volgen – meeluisteren – is verboden. Een bron: ‘Ze konden nummers tappen, ze konden overal ter wereld meeluisteren, KPN had geen idee wat Huawei op het netwerk deed.’

They could tap phones from all over the world. KPN had no idea what Huawei did on their network.

amaccuish5y ago

> It's more like a locksmith that comes into your house when you didn't call this time. And installed the first time they came, a device to check everyone that comes in ( since they discovered an Chinese application that listens to phone calls)

It's more like a locksmith coming into your home because you asked him to manage the locks and ensure they were in working condition... and surprise he keeps them in working condition.

In other news, USA asks Cisco to build routers for NSA network and accuses NSA of having too much access, which they could have used.

NicoJuicy5y ago

Huawei had unauthorized access from China and they circumvented the password policy from KPN.

They may have eavesdropped, because they had an application that could listen to every phone call on the KPN network. Which was forbidden.

https://www.volkskrant.nl/nieuws-achtergrond/huawei-kon-alle...

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