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0 pointsahelwer4y ago0 comments

It's way more than the Epstein thing. This has been going on for years. Telling an undergrad he would kill himself if she didn't date him is one example.

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feverzsj4y ago

Then ask yourself: When did this happen? Told by who? Any reliable evidence?

ahelwerOP4y ago

This has been an established pattern of behavior reported by multiple women over time, fitting with what we know about his interactions & attitude toward female colleagues. Zooming in on a single incident to cross-examine it like a court case is exactly what leads to these zero-consequences outcomes that drive women out of the field.

zihotki4y ago

That only makes him a weirdo, not more than that. Should he be prosecuted for being weirdo? I doubt so. It was uncomfortable for women but they weren't forced or threatened (remember he was saying he will kill himself, not her/him).

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Andrew_nenakhov4y ago

So how should we punish him? How long did this evil act take place? Do these actions have statute of limitations? In Massachusetts rape has 15 years SoL, but clearly this is a much more severe offense.

ahelwerOP4y ago

The point is there was no punishment for that! Nor for the many other things he has done! People closed ranks and it was as if nothing happened. Now the final bill has come due. And you start talking about statute of limitations. This is someone who has acted in a consistent way over many years. He should not be a leader in a project which purports to fight for the freedom of all people. Such a role is a privilege. Statute of limitations is a legal concept applying to the legal arena. This is not that. Stop conflating them.

Andrew_nenakhov4y ago

This is so completely wrong on so many levels that I don't even know where to begin arguing it with.

1. The Founder of a project is the one who gets the biggest say in who should lead it, not some random virtue signalling dude from the internet.

2. Why should I stop conflating these issues? You judge the person for his actions, just like criminal judges do. However, the very criminal and ugly offense of rape is NOT punishable by the law after a number of years. But you are such a severe judge that you demand a punishment with no lenience or clemency and no statute of limitations for being an unpleasant person who is very awkward with women, and allegedly made someone uncomfortable three decades ago.

3. Found your own project, run it the way you like, decide who will have a 'privilege' to lead it.

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feverzsj4y ago

Then ask yourself: When did this happen? Told by who? Any reliable evidence?

ahelwerOP4y ago

zihotki4y ago

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Andrew_nenakhov4y ago

ahelwerOP4y ago

Andrew_nenakhov4y ago

This is so completely wrong on so many levels that I don't even know where to begin arguing it with.

1. The Founder of a project is the one who gets the biggest say in who should lead it, not some random virtue signalling dude from the internet.

3. Found your own project, run it the way you like, decide who will have a 'privilege' to lead it.

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