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0 pointslettergram5y ago0 comments

Yes, that's one of the concerns many have about this technology. Literally, anything can be injected and done at this point.

Not sure where the technology is exactly at, but I suspect we're no more than 5 years from major incident related to this.

Even this vaccine, we really don't know the long-term impacts or risks involved with this. For instance, this vaccine does appear more risky than the standard flu vaccine:

https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/saved/D8/D137F981

Presumably this is due to increased inflammation. It's not hard to imagine that we'll be doing genetic editing soon enough with this (if we aren't already).

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kickopotomus5y ago

Do you happen to have a more verifiable source for your claim that COVID-19 vaccines are more risky than the flu vaccine?

Excerpt from the disclaimer in your source:

> VAERS accepts reports of adverse events and reactions that occur following vaccination. Healthcare providers, vaccine manufacturers, and the public can submit reports to VAERS. While very important in monitoring vaccine safety, VAERS reports alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness. The reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable. Most reports to VAERS are voluntary, which means they are subject to biases. This creates specific limitations on how the data can be used scientifically. Data from VAERS reports should always be interpreted with these limitations in mind.

lettergramOP5y ago

Give the incentives no, however it should be noted VAERS is only going to undercount not over count. Physicians are required to fill it out if there’s adverse side effects at the hospital.

Wish there was more but the incentives aren’t really aligned for open research on this.

We can get the real cdc idc10 (billing) results in several months.

sterlind5y ago

How do you edit genes with an mRNA vaccine? You'd need DNA, enzymes (maybe requiring post-translational modification) to splice them in, etc.

Also, you might not even be able to print full viruses with this platform. manufacturing mRNA is different from manufacturing all the random types of RNA in a virus, isn't it?

lettergramOP5y ago

Theres really no reason you can’t have a multitude of mRNA deployed, you definitely don’t need DNA to do editing.

There are people already doing gene editing with mRNA methods:

https://m.jpost.com/health-science/israeli-scientists-use-mr...

I’m not sure about these particular platforms, but I wouldn’t be surprised if we see gene editing technology deployed live in the next 3 years.

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kickopotomus5y ago

Do you happen to have a more verifiable source for your claim that COVID-19 vaccines are more risky than the flu vaccine?

Excerpt from the disclaimer in your source:

lettergramOP5y ago

Give the incentives no, however it should be noted VAERS is only going to undercount not over count. Physicians are required to fill it out if there’s adverse side effects at the hospital.

Wish there was more but the incentives aren’t really aligned for open research on this.

We can get the real cdc idc10 (billing) results in several months.

sterlind5y ago

How do you edit genes with an mRNA vaccine? You'd need DNA, enzymes (maybe requiring post-translational modification) to splice them in, etc.

Also, you might not even be able to print full viruses with this platform. manufacturing mRNA is different from manufacturing all the random types of RNA in a virus, isn't it?

lettergramOP5y ago

Theres really no reason you can’t have a multitude of mRNA deployed, you definitely don’t need DNA to do editing.

There are people already doing gene editing with mRNA methods:

https://m.jpost.com/health-science/israeli-scientists-use-mr...

I’m not sure about these particular platforms, but I wouldn’t be surprised if we see gene editing technology deployed live in the next 3 years.

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