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Wasn't a TypeScript runtime the original Deno selling point? Didn't the project have to pivot away from that?

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No. Nothing has changed about Typescript support since 1.0. It is just as well supported as JS. We never removed support...

threatofrainOP4y ago

So Deno is still committing to TS runtime?

asiachick4y ago

I feel like people are talking past each other here.

To me "TypeScript runtime" means running TypeScript in a mode that runs faster than JavaScript by actually using the type info to generate better machine code. It does not mean translating to JavaScript at runtime and running in V8.

For example at one time there was an experimental version of Chrome that had a Dart Runtime. A quick google finds this HN thread when they decided NOT to have a dart runtime

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9264531

So can we get clear? Does Deno plan to execute TypeScript natively (not via V8 or via a heavily modified V8) or are the plans to continue compiling TypeScript to JavaScript internally and actually just run JavaScript

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rhencke4y ago

Y E S

lucacasonato4y ago

Heck yeah

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Soremwar4y ago

They had to remove it from the Deno build process so Deno internals didn't need a compiler. However TypeScript support remains untouched and receives constant updates

pocketgrok4y ago

I don’t remember “TS runtime” as you’re meaning it ever being pitched. I don’t think Ryan would consider that in scope for Deno unless MS wanted to collaborate on it.

threatofrainOP4y ago

I do find the messaging to be confusing, because what would you think I meant if I talked about the runtime of Elixir or Scala?

This is the marketing line on the front page of the Deno project:

> A secure runtime for JavaScript and TypeScript.

They are using the same term "runtime" to describe JS as well as TS. All replies here by Deno team members use the language "Typescript support" but nobody here is saying TypeScript runtime.

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lucacasonato4y ago

No. Nothing has changed about Typescript support since 1.0. It is just as well supported as JS. We never removed support...

threatofrainOP4y ago

So Deno is still committing to TS runtime?

asiachick4y ago

I feel like people are talking past each other here.

For example at one time there was an experimental version of Chrome that had a Dart Runtime. A quick google finds this HN thread when they decided NOT to have a dart runtime

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9264531

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rhencke4y ago

Y E S

lucacasonato4y ago

Heck yeah

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Soremwar4y ago

They had to remove it from the Deno build process so Deno internals didn't need a compiler. However TypeScript support remains untouched and receives constant updates

pocketgrok4y ago

I don’t remember “TS runtime” as you’re meaning it ever being pitched. I don’t think Ryan would consider that in scope for Deno unless MS wanted to collaborate on it.

threatofrainOP4y ago

I do find the messaging to be confusing, because what would you think I meant if I talked about the runtime of Elixir or Scala?

This is the marketing line on the front page of the Deno project:

> A secure runtime for JavaScript and TypeScript.

They are using the same term "runtime" to describe JS as well as TS. All replies here by Deno team members use the language "Typescript support" but nobody here is saying TypeScript runtime.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse