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0 pointsdonohoe5y ago0 comments

"no widespread election fraud"

But, there wasn't. This has been backed up in courts and by various gov and independent agencies - and then reported in the news.

"insurrection"

The Capitol was stormed. You can even watch the video. There is evidence of advance planning by some groups involved (see Proud Boys and Oath Keepers etc.). It disrupted sessions of the House and the Senate. VP was evacuated by Secret Service. Many were armed. 5 people died, one of those shot as she tried to get into the barricaded doors of the House. At least one member of the police also killed. Extensive video footage exists documenting the day.

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mc325y ago

The key is inserting “widespread” as a qualifier.

It’s like saying, did you steal a million dollars? No, I didn’t steal a _million_ dollars! (leaving blank they stole ten thousand thousand).

A member of the police force died. It’s uncertain he was killed.

If you listened to the media it was an armed insurrection. In reality it was a bunch of idiots a half dozen of whom had weapons. If you believed the media hundreds or thousands or armed goons were on the cusp of taking over government. It’s so far removed from reality but people believe that is what happened.

smartician5y ago

It's almost comical how you go from "it doesn't matter what the scale of the irregularities is, fraud is fraud" to "you have to qualify the scale of the insurrection, only a few were armed" in the same post.

If this is a sarcastic post, well done!

mc325y ago

No, it illustrated the media's "concern". They exaggerate on one side and minimize on the other to peddle a narrative.

We know fraud happens. People go to jail over it every year. It's not a lie. So to cover that, they qualify it as "widespread" Ok.

The Capitol. On the one hand, The CHAZ and Portland is inconsequential where business get looted, we have fires and people were murdered (not just happened to die) and it's yeah, protesters will protest... When it comes to the Capitol, oh, the interrupted congress!!! I mean, like congress has never been interrupted before. And then they make it out to be a full blown rebellion. Yes, you had thugs and goons, but you're deluded if you think that's how coups happen.

donohoeOP5y ago

I stand by what I said. The media reports are based on extensive first-hand evidence, coverage, social media.

I do not need MSM to tell me that an insurrection was happening. I see it for myself.

And here you are down-playing, ignoring facts, ignoring the other points I made that counter yours, and generally being mis-leading.

I think you should refresh your history. Often it can be opportunistic armed goons that topple governments.

raarts5y ago

You see it for yourself, emanating from the sources that comprise your bubble.

Which holds for everybody. And it's the diversity of those sources that determines how close your view matches the truth.

donohoeOP5y ago

No. I saw it from the video leaked on Parlor.

I am aware of my bubble. Are you aware of yours?

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mc325y ago

The key is inserting “widespread” as a qualifier.

It’s like saying, did you steal a million dollars? No, I didn’t steal a _million_ dollars! (leaving blank they stole ten thousand thousand).

A member of the police force died. It’s uncertain he was killed.

smartician5y ago

If this is a sarcastic post, well done!

mc325y ago

No, it illustrated the media's "concern". They exaggerate on one side and minimize on the other to peddle a narrative.

We know fraud happens. People go to jail over it every year. It's not a lie. So to cover that, they qualify it as "widespread" Ok.

donohoeOP5y ago

I stand by what I said. The media reports are based on extensive first-hand evidence, coverage, social media.

I do not need MSM to tell me that an insurrection was happening. I see it for myself.

And here you are down-playing, ignoring facts, ignoring the other points I made that counter yours, and generally being mis-leading.

I think you should refresh your history. Often it can be opportunistic armed goons that topple governments.

raarts5y ago

You see it for yourself, emanating from the sources that comprise your bubble.

Which holds for everybody. And it's the diversity of those sources that determines how close your view matches the truth.

donohoeOP5y ago

No. I saw it from the video leaked on Parlor.

I am aware of my bubble. Are you aware of yours?

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