Thanks for breaking down the evolution of the debate; your summary gave me a lot more context to this discussion.

> This is the controversial part. Trans right activists see this position as an erasure of trans identity/denying their right to exist, etc pp. They seek to suppress any kind of research investigating

Does this mean _all_ Trans rights activists?

I'm wondering if there is discourse from Trans rights activists who are activists for reasons other than those associated with medical research - and who possibly object to this attempt by a subset of Trans rights activists to suppress said research.

I only have one Trans friend that I actively engage with on this topic, and I get the impression that even within the Trans community there is a lot of disagreement in terms of what's best for society (and how to best raise our children).

Which is perfectly normal - especially given the deeply nuanced nature of this discussion.

I'm just trying to wrap my mind around why Amazon took this step.

> Gender dysphoria is classified in Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5)

So, will Amazon now de-list diagnostic manuals?

Here's a rebuttal to the Littman paper: https://juliaserano.medium.com/everything-you-need-to-know-a...

Here, OTOH, is a young woman talking about how she was temporarily convinced she was a trans man: https://youtu.be/r57wGbiK3U8

The last point is incorrect. Gender dysphoria being temporary for some people isn't controversial. Trans people oppose Littman's paper being taken seriously because it's incredibly shoddy.[1]

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnc_KvWkiHw&t=3324s

I am sorry to see your post as greyed out, it is an objective viewpoint neutral summary of the issue.

You need to be wary about what positions people report "trans activists" as holding. The website you link to is considered "questionable" by the Media Bias Fact Check website (https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/quillette/) and The Times has been instrumental in pushing transphobic rhetoric mainstream.

While I'm sure you could find someone on tumblr posting about how all 3 year old boys who play with dolls should immediately be given HRT, all mainstream thought (by trans people and medical professionals) I've seen is that children who exhibit gender dysphoria should be given puberty blockers while thorough psychological analyses etc are carried out.

> For other patients, this is a temporary discomfort with their identity that passes or can be resolved otherwise (e..g by accepting sexual identity etc). <--- This is the controversial part. Trans right activists see this position as an erasure of trans identity/denying their right to exist,

No, this is untrue. Trans people all accept that questioning is a valid part of treatment. The controversial bit is that transphobes say that the only allowable treatment is questioning and denial, and that any attempt to support someone to transition is abusive.

> etc pp. They seek to suppress any kind of research investigating e.g. the rapid rise in gender dysmorphia in teenagers as a medical phenomenon

Linking to Quilette lowers your credibility. Littman did not interview any trans children. She went to an online forum for "gender critical parents" and asked if their children's transition was a sudden. Unsurprisingly, many of those parents said yes. Turns out if you go to conspiracy theory forums you find people who believe conspiracy theories. That doesn't make them true. It's a bit weird to see people on HN suckered into this so easily, but here we are. Her "study" has been widely debunked by experts.

> and seek to ban any books/research/open debate in this area.

No they don't.