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0 pointsklyrs5y ago0 comments

I think that FSM does satisfy your stricter definition of counterculture. Like the Church of Satan, one of the stated goals is to force legal examination of whether or not "freedom of religion" actually means "freedom to practice Christianity".

LARPing and kink also have some opposition by fairly mainstream religious-types. They're seen as counterculture, even if they don't define themselves that way. Sorry. Changing my mind on kink -- that's a really big umbrella. Some people get off on being shamed for whatever it is they're into. Those folk are only satisfied when seen as counterculture.

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ALittleLight5y ago

Maybe the FSM is counter cultural but only in the way that housecats and lions are both felines. There is a very large difference between trying to hang Mike Pence or kill police and believing that established religions are illogical. Maybe it's slightly countercultural in the areas where Christianity or other religions predominate (which is not where I live).

klyrsOP5y ago

I have family that literally think that Harry Potter turns children to Satanism, and think that the books should be banned on that basis (JKR was cancelled on the right long before she was cancelled on the left). You might consider those folks to belong to a counterculture in your context, but Evangelical Christianity is extremely popular in large swathes of the US.

And yes, both lions and housecats are felines. There's gradients and degrees. I'd call the folks you're talking about as "extremists" not a mere counterculture.

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ALittleLight5y ago

klyrsOP5y ago

And yes, both lions and housecats are felines. There's gradients and degrees. I'd call the folks you're talking about as "extremists" not a mere counterculture.

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