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0 pointsprepend5y ago0 comments

This is where it gets confusing. If Disney puts these preroll notices in front of lots of content, does it mean content without it has been reviewed by Disney and they haven’t found a problem?

This used to be crazy for me to think, but this article literally says Disney has hired people to review all content. Makes sense that they would review their recent blockbuster, Mulan, before Muppets episodes from decades ago.

So it seems Disney is pretty much saying the concentration camps in China are fine. Or at least are more fine than Petter Sellers dressing as a gypsy. In the spectrum of messed up stuff, I think making fun of gypsies is on there. Maybe 3/1000 on the butthurt-o-meter (with literal Nazis carrying out Holocaust being 1000/1000 and Triumph of the Will being like 600/1000).

So I would guess that just putting money into a region where people are rounded up, sterilized, retrained, etc must rate at least a 50/1000 right?

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anoonmoose5y ago

Your last paragraph gives away the game. There is no content in Mulan to give a warning about. The issue you have is with the Chinese government, not the content of the film Mulan.

prependOP5y ago

It gets kind of convoluted as to what’s acceptable and what’s not. My comment was addressing another upstream that said something like “ No one said concentration camps in China were fine”

In this situation should Disney put a preroll that says “While we filmed this movie in an area where people are being oppressed and gave financial support to the oppressors, we don’t support concentration camps?”

I’m not sure I understand what reasoning Disney is using to put a preroll before a muppet episode where someone dresses as a gypsy. Or even a generic warning around a specific episode where someone sings in front of a confederate flag in a way that sounds pretty racist.

It seems like Disney has made a decision that one situation requires one and the other doesn’t.

Personally, this is why I don’t pay much attention to these things and don’t draw conclusions based on them. They are so cloudy and subjective, it becomes hard to try to address all the hypotheticals.

_zn025y ago

Disney is putting a content warning before content they think might need a warning. There is no content in Mulan that they think needs a warning, so there is no need to put a content warning in. What you're doing is whataboutism, and imo it doesn't sound like any solution would make you happy.

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anoonmoose5y ago

(although I would be interested to hear from anyone who thought that simply taking place in China despite being filmed elsewhere/in front of greenscreen, or having Chinese people in the film would also warrant a warning. Would love to see that rated on the above x/1000 scale.)

prependOP5y ago

I made the scale purposely farcical, but I wish we could actually solve for this.

I suppose the x/1000 scale would need to objectively measure the harm and suffering caused by a thing and normalize.

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0 pointsprepend5y ago0 comments

This is where it gets confusing. If Disney puts these preroll notices in front of lots of content, does it mean content without it has been reviewed by Disney and they haven’t found a problem?

So I would guess that just putting money into a region where people are rounded up, sterilized, retrained, etc must rate at least a 50/1000 right?

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anoonmoose5y ago

Your last paragraph gives away the game. There is no content in Mulan to give a warning about. The issue you have is with the Chinese government, not the content of the film Mulan.

prependOP5y ago

It gets kind of convoluted as to what’s acceptable and what’s not. My comment was addressing another upstream that said something like “ No one said concentration camps in China were fine”

It seems like Disney has made a decision that one situation requires one and the other doesn’t.

_zn025y ago

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anoonmoose5y ago

prependOP5y ago

I made the scale purposely farcical, but I wish we could actually solve for this.

I suppose the x/1000 scale would need to objectively measure the harm and suffering caused by a thing and normalize.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse