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0 pointsyokaze5y ago0 comments

A couple of points:

> your odds of a negative effect from COVID without vaccine is between 0.04% and 0.006%

And with the vaccine, they are 0%. Or sufficiently close enough, that they weren't registered in the large scale studies of various vaccine makers.

> roughly a tenth of a car maintenance, in time and cost

And I get the jab for free with paid leave, so for free in time and cost.

Why? Because the costs for society are evidently high. Most people have friends or relatives, which are in high risk groups (e.g. parents, grand-parents), and they rather do not want to take the risk of being responsible for their premature and rather gruesome death.

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candiodari5y ago· 1 in thread

> And with the vaccine, they are 0%. Or sufficiently close enough, that they weren't registered in the large scale studies of various vaccine makers.

No they drop by 60%-80% or so, they don't drop to zero. It depends on the specific vaccin and which "refresh" regimen you choose, and of course on your age (the very young and very old can get as many vaccins as they want, it won't work, and of course immunodeficient patients won't work either)

Or to put it differently: if you have to choose between stopping smoking or getting vaccinated. Stopping smoking is by far the better choice (of course both is still better).

yokazeOP5y ago

Moderna: 0 severe cases in the vaccinated group, 11 in the placebo group: https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/peer-reviewed-...

Pfizer/BioNTech: 1 severe case in the vaccinated vs 9 placebo group (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33301246/)

Oxford: 10 hospitalisations all in the control group (https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6...)

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