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0 pointsahelwer5y ago0 comments

This zombie they're lying about their numbers! cope needs to die. Look at Taiwan. Look at Korea. Both of them handled the virus fairly well, with much less extreme measures, and have good relations with the US so you have no reason to doubt their numbers.

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peytn5y ago

One is an island, and the other might as well be an island? I applaud their successes, but a year in, empirically what works in Hawaiʻi and Guam isn’t going to work in Chicago.

EdwinLarkin5y ago

Both Taiwan and South Korea's values are in direct contrast with what we call Western Values. Violating the right to privacy is one of them. South Korea's spying on its citizens is second only to China.

ahelwerOP5y ago

Feeding grandma into the woodchipper as I somehow happily dream that the US government doesn't have its populace under total digital surveillance

loriverkutya5y ago

Why should this they're lying about their numbers cope should die? They are lying about their numbers so you don't have solid data to argue with.

est315y ago

Those countries aren't communist though. If something needs to die it's communism.

ahelwerOP5y ago

Yes, that's the point. You won't believe numbers from any communist country. So I provided nearby non-communist countries who have significant overlap in strategy, with good success, whose numbers you will believe. We can infer that even more stringent measures would have resulted in even better outcomes. Thus the communist countries are likely not lying about their numbers.

est315y ago

According to WHO numbers, South Korea has almost as many cases (80k) as China (100k). I believe the SK one, but I can't believe the numbers for a big country such as China. They have 50 times the population of SK.

Note that likely the number of infections is larger than the official numbers in the western countries as well. But I trust the ones from the west (or SK) far more than the Chinese numbers.

SpicyLemonZest5y ago

But neither Taiwan nor South Korea have had stricter lockdowns than the US.

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peytn5y ago

One is an island, and the other might as well be an island? I applaud their successes, but a year in, empirically what works in Hawaiʻi and Guam isn’t going to work in Chicago.

EdwinLarkin5y ago

ahelwerOP5y ago

Feeding grandma into the woodchipper as I somehow happily dream that the US government doesn't have its populace under total digital surveillance

loriverkutya5y ago

Why should this they're lying about their numbers cope should die? They are lying about their numbers so you don't have solid data to argue with.

est315y ago

Those countries aren't communist though. If something needs to die it's communism.

ahelwerOP5y ago

est315y ago

Note that likely the number of infections is larger than the official numbers in the western countries as well. But I trust the ones from the west (or SK) far more than the Chinese numbers.

SpicyLemonZest5y ago

But neither Taiwan nor South Korea have had stricter lockdowns than the US.

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