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0 pointsenriquto5y ago0 comments

> Element is a Matrix client just as Chrome is a Web browser, and just as it’s possible to view abusive material via Chrome, the same is true of Element.

> However, we abhor abuse, and on the default matrix.org server (...) we have a fairly strict terms of use (...) which we proactively enforce.

These two sentences are contradictory. Either you are a road or a road restaurant. You can't have it both ways.

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Arnavion5y ago

The first sentence is about Element.

The second sentence is about matrix.org

enriqutoOP5y ago

It seems to me that it is the other way round, isn't it? Although having matrix.org be an Element client is extremely confusing. If "matrix.org" is moderated it would seem that the whole protocol is moderated (and thus, not a neutral carrier).

HereBeBeasties5y ago

In web terms: - Element is like a browser - matrix.org is like a bulletin board

In e-mail terms: - Element is like a mail client - matrix.org is like a given community of mailing lists

In IRC terms: - Element is like an IRC client - matrix.org is like an IRC server/network e.g. Freenode.

dkarp5y ago

Matrix.org is just one server deployment that implements the matrix protocol. You can deploy your own server or even your own implementation, and moderate it how you want. It has nothing to do with element. The apology is apt, as just like a browser speaks http, element speaks matrix.

feanaro5y ago

Element is just one of many Matrix user agents and matrix.org offers just one of many Matrix servers.

Each server has the freedom to enforce its own policy. Given that the matrix.org server is a kind of a public face for the protocol, it makes sense that its policies are more mainstream.

There is nothing in the protocol itself (nor in the official Element clients) enforcing any kind of content policy.

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