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0 pointssojournerc5y ago0 comments

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> And one might think liberals, putting liberty above order, would be aghast at silencing opponents to maintain order, and yet here we are.

You aren't liberal, that's OK, and Twitter isn't a liberal platform, and definitely has a political bias towards the progressive left.

I'd rather make decisions for myself than let Twitter tell me what is or isn't misinformation.

> Sidenote: The Federalist itself got its account banned from twitter for spreading covid misinformation.

Thanks for proving my point

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croon5y ago

> Twitter isn't a liberal platform, and definitely has a political bias towards the progressive left.

[citation needed] seeing as your previous example fell flat.

> > Sidenote: The Federalist itself got its account banned from twitter for spreading covid misinformation.

> Thanks for proving my point

I fail to see your point. They spread misinformation that would get people killed, and were banned for it.

I've not in my 30 years on the internet spent more than a passing moment on a BBS, forum, social media that let anything go, nor would I want to as I've seen what it devolves into.

You have not displayed any basis for your assertion that the moderation enforcement on twitter is biased.

What point did I prove for you?

adolph5y ago

1. Not banned, posted 5 hours ago (stop spreading innocuous misinformation): https://mobile.twitter.com/fdrlst

2. What misinformation was spread?

Was it something like masks work or don’t work or something like Black Lives are more important than stopping the spread or outdoor activities are safe?

Ok, first search result says:

* The article, titled “How Medical ‘Chickenpox Parties’ Could Turn The Tide Of The Wuhan Virus,” argued that a “controlled voluntary infection” program could allow young people to return to work after contracting and recovering from the virus.*

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/25/us/chickenpox-parties-fed...

The Times quotes the MD whose conjecture published by The Federalist caused so much twit-concern and then goes on to quote criticism of two not-MDs (using their title of “Dr.” but not establishing that they are academics and not medical doctors). [1,2]

To keep things fair the do cite an academic who is also an MD who “said he would not endorse intentionally infecting people, but added that it was worth considering ways to increase herd immunity while protecting vulnerable patients.” [3]

How is it you can claim that “they spread misinformation that would get people killed?” Something controversial, sure. “Would get people killed?” Thats silly.

1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Caplan

2 https://www.umass.edu/sphhs/person/faculty/andrew-lover

3 https://www.medschool.umaryland.edu/profiles/Morgan-Daniel/

croon5y ago

> 1. Not banned, posted 5 hours ago (stop spreading innocuous misinformation): https://mobile.twitter.com/fdrlst

Not all bans are permanent (but thanks for the sanctimonious flair).

> 2. What misinformation was spread?

1) That you can have safe infections (many otherwise healthy people have died from covid, including kids).

2) That "voluntary" is even an applicable term in an epidemic. You are not merely risking your life, but that of others, regardless of what you think are safety measures.

And speaking of masks as you mentioned, they are generally not for your safety, but for the safety of everyone else, so they work best if a critical amount of people use them.

I find it very curious that you dive deep into the (at least) three people opposing the article, and not the MD posting it. An unlicensed MD who's been a business man for 25 years and was a skin doctor.

> How is it you can claim that “they spread misinformation that would get people killed?” Something controversial, sure. “Would get people killed?” Thats silly.

People die from covid, even outside of risk groups. That's not silly, that's a fact.

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croon5y ago

> Twitter isn't a liberal platform, and definitely has a political bias towards the progressive left.

[citation needed] seeing as your previous example fell flat.

> > Sidenote: The Federalist itself got its account banned from twitter for spreading covid misinformation.

> Thanks for proving my point

I fail to see your point. They spread misinformation that would get people killed, and were banned for it.

I've not in my 30 years on the internet spent more than a passing moment on a BBS, forum, social media that let anything go, nor would I want to as I've seen what it devolves into.

You have not displayed any basis for your assertion that the moderation enforcement on twitter is biased.

What point did I prove for you?

adolph5y ago

1. Not banned, posted 5 hours ago (stop spreading innocuous misinformation): https://mobile.twitter.com/fdrlst

2. What misinformation was spread?

Was it something like masks work or don’t work or something like Black Lives are more important than stopping the spread or outdoor activities are safe?

Ok, first search result says:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/25/us/chickenpox-parties-fed...

How is it you can claim that “they spread misinformation that would get people killed?” Something controversial, sure. “Would get people killed?” Thats silly.

1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Caplan

2 https://www.umass.edu/sphhs/person/faculty/andrew-lover

3 https://www.medschool.umaryland.edu/profiles/Morgan-Daniel/

croon5y ago

> 1. Not banned, posted 5 hours ago (stop spreading innocuous misinformation): https://mobile.twitter.com/fdrlst

Not all bans are permanent (but thanks for the sanctimonious flair).

> 2. What misinformation was spread?

1) That you can have safe infections (many otherwise healthy people have died from covid, including kids).

2) That "voluntary" is even an applicable term in an epidemic. You are not merely risking your life, but that of others, regardless of what you think are safety measures.

And speaking of masks as you mentioned, they are generally not for your safety, but for the safety of everyone else, so they work best if a critical amount of people use them.

> How is it you can claim that “they spread misinformation that would get people killed?” Something controversial, sure. “Would get people killed?” Thats silly.

People die from covid, even outside of risk groups. That's not silly, that's a fact.

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