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0 pointsawb5y ago0 comments

> I'm curious about why you're asking for examples in the first place

Because you said: "I've noticed lately that HN commentary (at least in threads like this) has trended increasingly pro-censorship[1] lately", "[1]: Which is a bit ironic, thinking about it."

I haven't had that experience and don't understand the irony. Just trying to understand where you're coming from and thought links might help.

I think I misunderstood "lately" to mean the censorship / violent speech debate about the resulting Big Tech deplatformings, which is why I keep bringing those up. In the US, taking down violent, insightful speech is not considered censorship, which is why I was confused about who you're referring to that is "pro-censorship", but again maybe I crossed some wires there.

I care about free speech a lot and if there's a growing trend that speech that's always been protected by the 1st amendment is being targeted, it's a line we all need to be very sensitive to and vigilant in defending.

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julianmarq5y ago

Just in case, the irony, for me, is that if I were in favor of censorship, I would be the first person I censor, instead of using an online forum to speak in favor of censorship. I feel that there's irony in using a widely accessed medium just to talk about how censorship is better.

And here's an example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25715809

(It bears noticing how the post whose thread that comment belongs to is certainly not about the banning of Trump or parler).

awbOP5y ago

Ok, so that is a good example of protected speech that we might not like. I read through the thread and you did a good job explaining the perils of censoring viewpoints.

The US has long done a “controlled burn” in banning violent speech, but we do need to be vigilant that it doesn’t turn into a wild fire.

I don’t understand why they removed the tweet instead of labeling it if they really want to be in the fact checking business.

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