(Bonus points for “With-vs-From” data, but I haven’t been able to find that broken out in any public dataset.)
https://www.ics.ac.uk/ICS/News_Statements/Understanding_inte...
See also the ICNARC reports.
> “With-vs-From” data
You saying this is a pretty clear demonstration that you're not going to understand the data if it's given to you, which is one reason people haven't dug out the spreadsheets for you.
There’s a very tired conspiracy that people can walk into an ER with e.g., a fatal gunshot wound, get tested positive for COVID, and then we are inflating the numbers and blaming their death on the virus.
Despite this, I see precious few C19 dashboards that show the ratio. We’re lucky to see one that describes precisely what is counted as a hospitalization. We’ve had plenty of time to figure out how to report this, I’m stunned that there isn’t more transparency.
My uncle (an MD) blew his gasket, "SHE DIED OF COVID", but I think really she was dying anyways. Maybe the virus pushed her over the edge, but she most certainly did NOT "die of covid". I should look up this death certificate.
The years of life lost to COVID-19 is minuscule - many deaths are simply "pulled forward" by 6 months or a year.
The deaths of teenagers and young adults who kill themselves because of the response to the pandemic are tragic [1, for example]. 60+ years of life lost vs. 0 years lost by my Aunt's friend (who was already on hospice).
[0] https://www.ouh.nhs.uk/patient-guide/leaflets/files/110215pa... says fluid buildup in abdomen is commonly caused by liver disease
[1] https://nypost.com/2020/12/08/maine-teen-commits-suicide-ami...
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So as we sit here on a precipice contemplating about what to do, I do know that kids aged 12+ can get the monoclonal antibody treatments so if your kids develop symptoms get them tested so they can be treated.
Younger kids are still SOL I think...
From the CDC, you can turn the plot lines off and on on the left hand side. Focus on the growth rate in pediatric population. The trend in age group 0-4 is disturbing.
I think it's read as "how many people in (age group) have been hospitalized with C19" - note that the lines for all age groups are strictly increasing. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Coronavirus: No increase in severe child cases, paediatricians say
2nd January
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9106509/Coronavirus...
Edit: -1 karma now without any rebuttals. Why? It is true, children were considered a population with the least risk during development of the vaccines.
That means that if we want to inoculate them, new trials must be run, necessarily taking some time. Or we can waive the trials and hope that what works for adults, works for children as well. Possible, but with unknown risks.
From my point of view, that is bad news.
