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0 pointssarchertech5y ago0 comments

I was never required to write Marxist literary criticisms of poetry. I learned rhetoric. I learned to write clearly and concisely, and I learned to write persuasively.

Correct grammar is not sufficient for effective communication.

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souprock5y ago· 2 in thread

Lucky you. English classes are normally a load of hot garbage. Concise writing would earn an F.

That stuff you learned is still not college material. It's remedial. OK, yes, there are remedial classes taught at most colleges, sadly enough. It's not justification to mandate that normal students take English classes in college.

sarchertechOP5y ago

Freshman English classes are generally English composition classes not literature classes. More often that not they have nothing to do with Marxist literary critique.

If you think that English composition shouldn't be taught in college, you clearly haven't ready many undergraduate essays. It's fine for you to think that this information should be remedial. Looking at the writing of "normal" students, it clearly isn't.

Also most schools offer a CLEP exam for English composition, so if you consider the information remedial, you can easily skip it.

souprock5y ago

Well, maybe we shouldn't have 2/3 of the population attempt college, and maybe we shouldn't let every warm body with a pulse graduate from high school. Truth is that English classes in high school are also often a load of hot garbage, because evidently the teachers prefer politics and art over teaching English.

For my own kids, the solution is homeschooling, with dual-enrollment in a community college starting at age 11 to 13. Community college seems to have less of the hot garbage than a typical 4-year school would.

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