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0 pointscapableweb5y ago0 comments

I don't know what to think here. If you get harassed by US agencies, you might stop posting on the internet, so we wouldn't see anything from them. Simply impossible for us to guess what happens to strangers on the internet, after they post US critical thinking publicly.

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gruez5y ago· 2 in thread

That might be true, but these posts have been on reddit/hn for years. You'd think that if there was some sort of effort to harass people making these posts that we'd stop seeing them and/or hear more people speaking out about government harassment.

StanislavPetrov5y ago

You mean harassment like calling them, "Russian agents" (soon to be "Chinese agents" as our geopolitical focus shifts)? Or harassing them by having their websites deranked and hidden on Google, like what happened to WSWS (among many other "dissident" sites)? Or simply disappearing them on Facebook and Twitter with unexplained and unappealable shadowbans and account suspensions? Do you think the widespread establishment push for censorship because of "disinformation" is coming out of the deep concern for people who are being misled? Its about tightening the screws of narrative control, which used to be near absolute when 99%+ of Americans got all of their information from the 3 major networks and was lost with the uncontrolled spread of information on the internet and social networks. The powers-that-be want that narrative control back and they will stop at nothing to get it.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/11/04/goog-n04.html

gruez5y ago

>You mean harassment like calling them, "Russian agents" ?

Strange, I'm not seeing any of that for the topics mentioned:

"military industry": https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/e0b1ui/dwight_d_eis...

"crime financial complex": https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/3r93j0/til_t...

"pretexts to war": https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1aiszn/new_eviden...

These have all received high amount of upvotes, and I'm not seeing any evidence of smearing/harassment happening in the comment threads.

>Or harassing them by having their websites deranked and hidden on Google, like what happened to WSWS (among many other "dissident" sites)?

The problem here is that you're lumping fringe/extremist anti-establishment content with mainstream anti-establishment content, and assuming that if the fringe/extremist content is being taken down, it's because it's anti-establishment rather than being fringe/extremist. I've shown counter-examples of anti-establishment content being left up (there's plenty more if you search around), so the original claim of

>Talk about [anti-establishment] and see yourself get delisted from Google, smeared in the media, then get harassed by various agencies until you either flee the country or end up like Hastings or car bombed like Daphne.

is demonstrably false.

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