Yes! I completely agree with the need to hire people who “give a shit”, but to me this means e.g.
- Dogfooding
- Fixing a bug even if your manager doesn’t notice
- Proactively noticing strange system behavior and investigating
- Actively contributing to strategic discussions; showing genuine interest in the problem space
- Jumping in to help when the server mysteriously starts crash looping, even if you’re not oncall
All but the last one have nothing to do with working more hours. Even the last one is intended as an exceptional event, not a baseline expectation.