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0 pointssonotathrowaway5y ago0 comments

Asian-American encompasses an very diverse set of experiences in America, you can’t really create a cohesive narrative in the same way you could with other groups. The fact that you easily identify different groups with very distinct experiences should clue you in to that.

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scarmig5y ago· 3 in thread

So your claim is that Asian-Americans are diverse, while black and Hispanic people each form unvariegated, homogeneous identities?

I very intentionally point out particular groups in my original comment, because proponents of race-based affirmative action always avoid grappling with why it's fair to discriminate against some relatively successful subgroups of Asian Americans by bringing up red herrings about Hmong and Cambodian refugees (who, it's worth pointing out, are typically excluded from the benefits of affirmative action anyway, which makes it even more of a red herring).

sonotathrowawayOP5y ago

If you take the population of black Americans you’ll find that the overwhelming majority of them have their history in the ~3.9 million people trafficked during the slave trade and the following diaspora from the south throughout the 40s-60s, the majority as in 80%+. If you look at Asian Americans, you’ll find that the overwhelming majority of them do not descend from the ~20k transcontinental railroad laborers.

It’s not hard to tell that their experiences must be vastly different, because 20k is a very small proportion of the total Asian American population, while 3.5m is a much larger percentage.

I hope this help you with differentiating how relatively homogeneous groups are.

collyw5y ago

At the same time it's fair to say that many of the Asian Americans will come from families that arrived with very little and have managed to become successful in the US within a generation or two, through hard work and disciple, no?

scarmig5y ago

Because I'd like some clarity on your actual position:

Should Hmong refugees, as one of the less successful Asian American subgroups, be extended the benefits of affirmative action?

SuoDuanDao5y ago

>The way you could with other groups

Who is 'you' white man?

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