I really think adding little adjectives like that undermines the respectedness of the NYT
It wasn't all that close. Of six elections (including this one) since 2000, at least 3 and possibly 4 (votes are still being counted) were closer in popular vote, and 3 were closer in electoral vote (based on what has been called so far, regardless of how the uncalled states go.
But it was particularly actively contested, with both high turnout and high passions on both sides, which is exactly what “tumultuous” means.
The fact some previous was closer, doesn't mean this one wasn't close, not sure how we even need to point this out on a site like hackernews.
Furthermore tumultuous does not equate to unpopular. Perhaps his supporters enjoy the chaos.
There is no doubt that Trump's presidency was tumultuous and there is no doubt that the race was indeed quite close.
As anarchists march in Portland, Miamians are worried about socialism.
Secular policies dominate in California and New York, while religion is invoked by close to every Southern Senator.
The HN guidelines do say politics should be considered off-topic: "Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon."
There's a ton of duplicate (even if separate URLs) submissions.
Donald Trump is the president-elect of the U.S. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12907201
[flagged] Joe Biden is the president-elect of the U.S. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25015967
That may be why.
I can not help but feel that Trump supporters are brigading these threads and actively trying to bury them. The fact that only old enough accounts can downvote means these are experienced HN contributors. Unsettling, really.
Is this the model of government that the USA bomb other countries for?
Also, the “red team” has been actively helping expand voter access all over the country. The Republican Georgia Secretary of State and the Republican state legislature played a major role in expanding voter access in Georgia the last couple of years (obviously they’re the ones with the actual power to change the election laws): https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/vote...
> Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger said the increase in registered voters shows the success of automatic voter registration and highlights other ways election officials have improved voting access, such as absentee voting for anyone who requests a mailed ballot and three weeks of early voting.
The financiers of the right are increasingly open about not wishing for a democracy in the US. The similarity here with the industrialists during the Weimar Republic is by the way striking.
No legal process has taken place that has declared Biden the winner.
He's been literally throwing lawsuits around to stop different states from continuing the counting. That to me says OP's words were accurate.
Everything else that happens are formalities, however important and necessary. Other than the 2000 election, we haven't waited this long to announce the next president following a presidential election.
And it isn't even close, Biden has more differential votes by percentage than Nixon, Truman, or Reagan.
Democracy was stress tested, and it still worked.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/04/07/re...
edit- spelling.
Bait him out with a cheeseburger !
Meet the new boss, Same as the old boss
-The Who
Biden is not President-elect. The President is elected in mid December by the electoral college.
Tens of millions of people are about to get a crash course in civics.
Guess they're also blind to that one aren't they?
This is why they are completely immune to accusations of hypocrisy.
All told by the end of Tuesday he was down in 30+ states (as it is settling now, he's down in 38 states compared to his 2016 margin). He won PA, MI, and WI by less than a point each in 2016. So if Trump was seeing shifts of 3 away from him in Texas, it didn't take a psychic to know he'd be losing those states he won at such a small margin.
If you looked at the numbers in PA on Wednesday morning, what you saw were tons out outstanding ballots in Lehigh, Bucks, Monroe, Philadelphia, and Allegheny counties, all counties that went for Clinton in 2016. You combine that with the fact that Democrats returned mail-in ballots at a rate of 65% compared to 23% for Republicans, and this thing seemed inevitable since about Wednesday morning.
Not a true statement I'm afraid. Look at the number of votes he got. Trumpism isn't going away any time soon.
>Not a true statement I'm afraid. Look at the number of votes he got. Trumpism isn't going away any time soon.
Tumult(n.)[0]:
"1. violent and noisy commotion or disturbance of a crowd or mob; uproar: The tumult reached its height during the premier's speech.
2. a general outbreak, riot, uprising, or other disorder: The tumult moved toward the embassy.
3. highly distressing agitation of mind or feeling; turbulent mental or emotional disturbance: His placid facade failed to conceal the tumult of his mind."
I imagine that many on every side would agree with that statement.
I would assume that most of his bluster about actually winning is aimed more at casting doubt on this in the minds of his followers than any realistic hope of overturning the process.
If you are in a position with experience and financial comfort to serve your country with regards to science and technology, the Biden administration will almost certainly be a great place to land. Look for policy and leadership positions in the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy.
I'll be submitting my resume and cover letter just as soon as the transition team site opens.
e: I will concede that it is not "quite distant", though it may not end up close in the EC when it's all said and done either.
