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0 pointsmixedCase5y ago0 comments

Or, we could just use X if it still works for us. I don't need any "more powerful and knowledgeable forces" to tell me what works for me and what doesn't.

I'd like to use Wayland. But there's no replacement to my bspwm+picom setup that works with a little configuration. Tough luck, guess I won't be using Wayland for now.

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bitwize5y ago· 3 in thread

Yeah, except what happens when the apps and toolkits you use drop X support because they consider X a dead end? What will you do then?

This is NOT a hypothetical. Projects have dropped ALSA support and adopted a policy of PulseAudio or GTFO -- and ALSA has more commitment to its long-term maintenance than Xorg now does. And I suspect the next phase will be Wayland maintainers putting pressure on toolkits to drop X support, much like Lennart pressured the GNOME community to hard-depend on systemd.

djur5y ago

At that point the Wayland ecosystem is hopefully mature enough to make the switch less painful than it is now. I don't see anyone saying they'd rather toss their computer in the garbage than ever use Wayland, just that it doesn't currently meet their needs.

sergeykish5y ago

I do not think it is wise to spread fear. Fear is the reason people attack Wayland.

Lets keep them separate. I have no PulseAudio, solved Skype with apulse, though I don't use much media except browser, player and tuner.

account425y ago

Same as with ALSA - I either stop using those apps, patch ALSA/X11 support back in or use wrappers to do the translation for me.

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