“[…] a friend of mine told me that because of his work in early development of Gosling Emacs, he had permission from Gosling in a message he had been sent to distribute his version of that. Gosling originally had set up his Emacs and distributed it free and gotten many people to help develop it, under the expectation based on Gosling’s own words in his own manual that he was going to follow the same spirit that I started with the original Emacs. Then he stabbed everyone in the back by putting copyrights on it, making people promise not to redistribute it and then selling it to a software-house. My later dealings with him personally showed that he was every bit as cowardly and despicable as you would expect from that history.”
— Richard Stallman, lecture at KTH (Sweden), 30 October 1986
Not more than stallman though. Nowhere close to stallman.
> I think he deserves better than this narrow, one-sided libel.
Richard Stallman has contributed more to humanity than the overwhelming majority of people who have ever lived - including gosling. I think he deserves better than this narrow, one-sided libel. See how that goes. Or how about we let people have their say? Regardless of how much they contributed to humanity.
And a transcript if you don't like video: https://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/access/text/20... The Stallman stuff starts on page 30.
I always wanted to get more into emacs but I spend more time fighting the setup to bother anymore. I love Spacemacs but I am leaning more towards Neovim + Spacevim since its pretty damn nice.
Fen Labalme message: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/net.emacs/Vxp_Is2A5Cs/l6AmKi...
Unipress message about the "portions of the GNU Emacs program are most definitely not public domain" https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/net.emacs/ZmwEvkr9Jfs/...
RMS explaining what code he used: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/net.emacs/eyFgYVrEe0Q/Avxp17...
and then some more discussions: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/net.emacs/DRVCmoISBEU/efLdK-...
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/net.emacs/PXHNtn7v4Rc/OFi1Ef...
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/net.emacs/-2IaisY2N0Q/r4Fd9N...
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/net.emacs/dytp5TT-02I/zUI4Ul...
and one from GvR https://groups.google.com/d/msg/net.emacs/HJOjV7_2cyY/Bm6oUm...
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/net.emacs/ilF9KtBimCk/WwO5NS... has the cost of getting an EMACS tape from RMS "GNU Emacs can be obtained from anyone who has a copy or by sending $150 payable to me"
On old emacs source code: https://github.com/larsbrinkhoff/emacs-history
Has someone posted a shorted edited version of this yet?
There is a podcast run by the german newspaper "Die Zeit" [1] where the concept is that the interview goes on until the guest thinks everything is said. The episodes usually last between 4 and 8 hours. The longest taking 9h 40 minutes.
There is one episode with Ian McEwan that is recoded in english if someone that doesn't speak german is interested. That one just takes 2h so its not really a good example.
[1]https://www.zeit.de/serie/alles-gesagt [2]https://www.zeit.de/gesellschaft/2019-12/ian-mcewan-intervie...
It’s not a medium with much popularity potential (very few people have >1 hour to spare on something as leisurely as an interview). But for the few people who would care for it, I think it’s super valuable that these things exist.
It’s kind of like the “Slow TV” idea, except instead of touring Norway’s mountains and rivers, you’re touring the landscape of somebody’s thoughts. Very brave on the subject’s behalf. Many people, even public personalities, wouldn’t enjoy such scrutiny.
Granted, this one is a bit special to me. I attended the same university as Gosling (decades later) so I could visualize the places and experiences he was talking about, while digging through old memories of my own. It's strange to think that a PDP that I saw in a trash heap may have been the machine he programmed on, and a prof that was teaching PDP assembly in the late-1990's may have been someone he learnt from.
I certainly hope you don't mean a literal trash heap.
Here is the 9 minutes part on Emacs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA7aB-oxjVc
More are to come.
Why is this clearly not ideal? I think you're being overly critical of the production. If the format isn't ideal for your consumption, you don't have to watch it.
I've seen your comment go from heavily downvoted (I didn't downvote it) -- to upvoted.
To me, your comment seems mean-spirited and detracts from anything else positive that can be said about the actual content of the interview.
Personally, it didn't occur to me to be bothered by the business suit. For others that agree with gp's funeral comment and upvoted it, can you explain what bugs you about the outfit?
Is the attire signaling pretension?!? If you weren't aware, some of his other videos show how insecure he is with his place in life and how his accomplishments don't compare to those he admires. He's not a pretentious guy. The business suit just seems like a consistent "visual identity" since he goes on the road for interviews. He doesn't have a full studio and the "star power" to attract guests to his home location.
EDIT to reply: "> I was always taught it was disrespectful to wear a black tie because it's reserved for people grieving."
Interesting. I've been to several Catholic/Protestant/Jewish funerals and have never heard of that etiquette rule. I've also seen non-grieving people wear black colored ties to business meetings and formal dinners. Some like the "Men in Black" look.