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0 pointsumvi5y ago0 comments

> but it is going to a management class fighting over project funding for new initiatives

Why are they fighting to fund new initiatives when Jimmy has to beg for donations just to keep the lights on? I want my money to go towards keeping current Wikipedia's lights on, not funding the next big idea some manager has.

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loeg5y ago

They don't have to beg for donations to keep the lights on. That's kind of the problem. They are vastly overfunded for running wikipedia and mostly squander any additional income they receive on non-Wikipedia projects. This is very well documented here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:CANCER

They get more and more in donations every year and continue to ramp up their spending, mostly not on Wikipedia (neither operating costs nor "R&D" type costs).

umviOP5y ago

Wow, if that's true their emails are really deceptive...

"About a year ago, you donated $15 to keep Wikipedia online for hundreds of millions of readers. I'm surprised by and deeply grateful for your continued support. You are part of the 2% of readers who donated to support Wikipedia. We need your help again this year ... most people will ignore this message. We have no choice but to turn to you: please renew your gift to ensure that Wikipedia remains independent, ad-free, and thriving another year."

I read that as "please donate or we might have to use ads to keep lights on if you don't"

loeg5y ago

Yes, I agree their fundraising messaging is deceptive and it's the primary reason I no longer give money to them.

bawolff5y ago

Other than wikidata and sometimes commons, most other wikimedia projects (as in websites being run by wikimedia foundation) get almost none of the money directed at them.

mattnewton5y ago

They have enough to keep the server lights on and a crew of maintenance employees, and the fights are over how to expand past that and justify more donations, or which things that have expanded past that are kept and not cut.

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loeg5y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:CANCER

They get more and more in donations every year and continue to ramp up their spending, mostly not on Wikipedia (neither operating costs nor "R&D" type costs).

umviOP5y ago

Wow, if that's true their emails are really deceptive...

I read that as "please donate or we might have to use ads to keep lights on if you don't"

loeg5y ago

Yes, I agree their fundraising messaging is deceptive and it's the primary reason I no longer give money to them.

bawolff5y ago

Other than wikidata and sometimes commons, most other wikimedia projects (as in websites being run by wikimedia foundation) get almost none of the money directed at them.

mattnewton5y ago

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse