Facebook Says It Will Stop Operating in Europe If Regulators Don’t Back Down (opens in new tab)

(vice.com)

46 pointsETHisso20175y ago29 comments

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1vuio0pswjnm75y ago· 4 in thread

Like the EU could not create their own FB and IG replacements.

Between the tiktok / wechat ban in the US and this, even if they don't materialize, I'm wondering if this is where we are heading. A deglobalization of social networks, each country or continent having its own...

LockAndLol5y ago

You mean back to what it was before? Every country used to have its own social network. Russia has VK, China has WeChat and the rest of the world has Facebook. Hopefully that will change, but I don't think opensource is there yet.

tootahe455y ago

Why not do it then? if you're scrambling hard for some tax scraps surely it would be more viable to 'just create the next fb' if you could.

1vuio0pswjnm75y ago

The replacements could be "nothing". EU never needed these companies in the first place.

afarviral5y ago· 3 in thread

I just chimed in to say I hope it vanishes from the earth. Thank you.

dang5y ago

Ok, but please don't post unsubstantive comments. You may not owe FB better, but you owe this community better if you're participating here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

stormcode5y ago

Right? The world would be a better place.

It's really hard to drum up any kind of pro-facebook feelings. Boo-boo, facebook. You've had a free ride with user data for years. They are no different than mobile advertisers complaining that they have a right to people's private data.

yona5y ago

Yes and yes

ve555y ago· 2 in thread

Save a vice click by reading: “Facebook is not threatening to withdraw from Europe,” a Facebook spokesperson said, adding that the court filing simply lays out how “Facebook, and many other businesses, organisations and services, rely on data transfers between the EU and the US in order to operate their services.”

LockAndLol5y ago

Got a source for that? You can a vice click but I'd still like to have some reputable source not just another dude on the internet.

ve555y ago

I just quoted the article, so the source is the OP link. They just hide it at the bottom and then make the headline a lie to get your click.

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dmode5y ago· 2 in thread

How can we make this happen on the US as well ?

rurban5y ago

Check that your department of justice is not corrupt. And democracy would help also

DyslexicAtheist5y ago

> And democracy would help also

Democracy is when an unelected 87 year old dies and now all the laws might change for some reason. -- https://twitter.com/existentialcoms/status/13073792967894343...

blitz_skull5y ago· 1 in thread

LOL!

I know a fake threat when I see one. Facebook acts like everyone really cares if it’s cancerous presence vanished from half the globe.

nix235y ago

>I know a fake threat

Is it a threat? It's like saing if you don't give me what i want, or i will overturn a bag of rice in china.

qalmakka5y ago

Yes, I'd really like to see Zuckerberg trying to explain to his shareholders that he quit one of their most lucrative markets just to stick it to the EU authorities. I don't think it would go that well to him. This threat is so empty it makes them look like total fools.

philipov5y ago

Yes! Please stop operating in Europe! Then, please stop operating in the US.

davidhbolton5y ago

Still clutching at straws. "as well as being used to influence the results of votes across the region, including the U.K.’s decision to leave the EU."

Yeah right. This despite the influence of Obama, the BBC, the British establishment and their pro remain leaflet. As if Facebook made a difference.

In today's news. Facebook to be blamed for labour voters giving Boris Johnson an 80 majority in the last Election.

yona5y ago

Good! Maybe a different, privacy-respecting social network can rise after FB’s departure.

ghego15y ago

Pro tip to FB: arguments that would make a good case in a US court are probably going to be felt very differently in Europe.

In this case what FB is saying to regulators is: EU regulations are working.

flatfilefan5y ago

Duplicate https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24543932

danielEM5y ago

Well, if you all guys here are EU citizens then interestingly you have same attitude against FB. Looks like EU should get clear green light from its society to stop people data harrasment.

gchokov5y ago

Ha. This would be great! We don’t need facebook anyway.

ralls_ebfe5y ago

Best message of the day. Please do so.

nix235y ago

Oh yeah!! Facebook please do that.

kennywinker5y ago

That’s a bluff if i ever saw one

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28 comments · 16 top-level

1vuio0pswjnm75y ago· 4 in thread

Like the EU could not create their own FB and IG replacements.

jobigoud5y ago

LockAndLol5y ago

tootahe455y ago

Why not do it then? if you're scrambling hard for some tax scraps surely it would be more viable to 'just create the next fb' if you could.

1vuio0pswjnm75y ago

The replacements could be "nothing". EU never needed these companies in the first place.

afarviral5y ago· 3 in thread

I just chimed in to say I hope it vanishes from the earth. Thank you.

dang5y ago

Ok, but please don't post unsubstantive comments. You may not owe FB better, but you owe this community better if you're participating here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

stormcode5y ago

Right? The world would be a better place.

yona5y ago

Yes and yes

ve555y ago· 2 in thread

LockAndLol5y ago

Got a source for that? You can a vice click but I'd still like to have some reputable source not just another dude on the internet.

ve555y ago

I just quoted the article, so the source is the OP link. They just hide it at the bottom and then make the headline a lie to get your click.

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dmode5y ago· 2 in thread

How can we make this happen on the US as well ?

rurban5y ago

Check that your department of justice is not corrupt. And democracy would help also

DyslexicAtheist5y ago

> And democracy would help also

Democracy is when an unelected 87 year old dies and now all the laws might change for some reason. -- https://twitter.com/existentialcoms/status/13073792967894343...

blitz_skull5y ago· 1 in thread

LOL!

I know a fake threat when I see one. Facebook acts like everyone really cares if it’s cancerous presence vanished from half the globe.

nix235y ago

>I know a fake threat

Is it a threat? It's like saing if you don't give me what i want, or i will overturn a bag of rice in china.

qalmakka5y ago

philipov5y ago

Yes! Please stop operating in Europe! Then, please stop operating in the US.

davidhbolton5y ago

Still clutching at straws. "as well as being used to influence the results of votes across the region, including the U.K.’s decision to leave the EU."

Yeah right. This despite the influence of Obama, the BBC, the British establishment and their pro remain leaflet. As if Facebook made a difference.

In today's news. Facebook to be blamed for labour voters giving Boris Johnson an 80 majority in the last Election.

yona5y ago

Good! Maybe a different, privacy-respecting social network can rise after FB’s departure.

ghego15y ago

Pro tip to FB: arguments that would make a good case in a US court are probably going to be felt very differently in Europe.

In this case what FB is saying to regulators is: EU regulations are working.

flatfilefan5y ago

Duplicate https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24543932

danielEM5y ago

Well, if you all guys here are EU citizens then interestingly you have same attitude against FB. Looks like EU should get clear green light from its society to stop people data harrasment.

gchokov5y ago

Ha. This would be great! We don’t need facebook anyway.

ralls_ebfe5y ago

Best message of the day. Please do so.

nix235y ago

Oh yeah!! Facebook please do that.

kennywinker5y ago

That’s a bluff if i ever saw one

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