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0 pointsnarag5y ago0 comments

Force is the key word for me. It's the "we know better than you" language designer mindset. My point is that if they really knew better, they wouldn't be making this anti-usability calls.

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ragnese5y ago· 2 in thread

The language isn't forcing you. The developer who chose to use a checked exception is forcing you.

Is the language "forcing" you when someone writes a function that returns a String? What if I wanted it to be an Int?

naragOP5y ago

Edit: OK, someone is downvoting ALL comments because opinions. No more comments by me. I'll delete everything that I can. Seriously, if someone doesn't want to read opposing opinions, I guess it's their right. And mine is to STFU, for good.

Edit2: hey TeMPOraL, I don't care too much about that, it's the feeling of being in a community where someone thinks this is an acceptable behaviour.

I've been writing here for very long. But this is getting ridiculous. Anything that is minimally controversial gets downvoted. And the thing is that I am already censoring myself a lot.

TeMPOraL5y ago

> It doesn't make much of a difference if Sun, the authors of the language, or Sun, the authors of the runtime, is screwing me.

But it matters for me, the programmer using modules written by other co-workers and third party libraries, that I'm made aware of what can fail and at what point, when I'm using these modules/libraries. It also matters to me that my tools (e.g. the compiler) force me to handle these cases correctly, or at least warn me when I'm not - lest I ship broken code through carelessness or ignorance.

Quality Sun's API design is a different issue. This is about giving people tools to express and enforce error handling semantics in software they design.

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> Edit: OK, someone is downvoting because opinions. No more comments by me.

It's good to not be attached to imaginary Internet points. They come and go and ultimately don't matter much. And FWIW, bad downvotes often get countered, and the score of a given comment settles to something reasonable over time.

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