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0 pointsUberphallus5y ago0 comments

Yet hundreds of companies die, too.

> You just illustrate the tipical French mentality ingrained by media all year long.

Living in France for 8 years and creating 2 companies doesn't seem to count, eh? Now I have my companies elsewhere in Europe and just pay my taxes on the revenues in France, only not to deal with the bureaucratic overhead.

> If France is so bad, move out.

The chauvinism is strong in this one. I'm in France, because I like things here. But startup culture isn't one of them. Why take criticism of a country's policy personally?

If you love your country try to fix it, don't suggest people who complain to leave.

> You'll learn a thing or two in the process.

I'm sure I would. I mean, I've done it.

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lm284695y ago

> because I like things here

Do you think it would stay the same without all the regulations you love to hate ?

You can't complain about paying taxes and at the same time say you love France, 80% of the things that makes France a good country to live in are financed by taxes one way or another. Just look over the pond if you want to see how France would look without regulations, 1930 France is today's US in term of workers rights and social security. I'm sure it's perfect if you're in the top 15%, not so much otherwise

vladvasiliu5y ago

It's not an all or nothing situation. GP is likely not opposed to each and every regulation and would like to see them all, 100%, go.

They pay taxes in France, it's only natural to want to have a say in how this money is spent. Complaining against the way things are doesn't mean that they would want each and every regulation repealed and switch completely to the way things are "over the pond". It could, it probably doesn't. They probably would have gone over the pond if it were the case.

Juliate5y ago

> The chauvinism is strong in this one. I'm in France, because I like things here. But startup culture isn't one of them.

I think this depends a lot on where you are, and who you connect to, and whose judgement you value too.

The mood felt very different to me between Paris intramuros, Paris suburb, Nantes, Bordeaux, Sophia, and even in each location, there are coexisting networks (installed businesses, "web" startups, industry ones, "marketing" ones, etc.) with different aims/cultures.

ldng5y ago

> Yet hundreds of companies die, too.

Like everywhere in the world.

I do not mind argumented criticism. But you are making broad subjectives statements that we ear ALL the time. If France was such an hostile place to business, it would not be the 7th largest economy in the world (2019).

>> If France is so bad, move out. > The chauvinism is strong in this one.

I could answer in bad faith that cultural imperial is also strong and that one need to learn the culture of the country one lives in as they will not find "silicon valley" culutre everywhere.

But really it was not my point. My point is I'm fed up with people painting such a dark picture of France. Most of the critism are way too often resumed to, I want the cake and eat it too, the quality of life but not the bureaucracy and taxes. It gets old fast.

> > You'll learn a thing or two in the process. > I'm sure I would. I mean, I've done it.

And it looks like you even pick up the French national sport I'm no stranger to: whining. (tone: light hearted joke, not personal attack to be clear)

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