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0 pointslake996y ago0 comments

You're using an outdated document as your source.

I will not post direct links. Instead, I invite you to browse tags like #HongKongPoliceTerrorism, #HongKongPoliceBrutality, #HKpolice, etc. on Twitter.

We all know not to trust COVID death counts from China. HK police brutality is something like that. We have video evidence of a few murders. As for the actual count, no one knows.

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Udik6y ago· 2 in thread

> You're using an outdated document as your source.

You're right, the document is outdated. I've searched further and while I did find a few instances of police shooting at protesters, I didn't find deaths.

> I will not post direct links.

Please do instead. And no, I don't think twitter is a reliable source, twitter is an information battleground, you should know it.

> HK police brutality is something like that.

HK citizens have all the means and the interest to spread knowledge of police brutality in their protests. I don't think the comparison with China and covid holds any water (even assuming that what you say about China's covid numbers is true, as "everybody knows" is not a proof).

afiori6y ago

> I've searched further and while I did find a few instances of police shooting at protesters, I didn't find deaths.

Not to deemphasize the seriousness of an actual death, but the difference between shooting at protestors (especially if in a crowd, but I have not seen the video) and casualties is a matter of luck.

Udik6y ago

True of course. For example a police agent shot at close range a protester that was attacking him with an iron bar [1]. Luckily it seems the protester survived.

But again, over many months of mass demonstrations, sometimes violent, the number of zero or very few actual deaths is significant.

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/02/world/asia/hong-kong-shoo...

rvz6y ago· 1 in thread

And many major tech companies (Apple, Google, YouTube, Bytedance) were censoring the HK protestors with China, Even when a protestor was shot with a live round on Facebook Live.

Sounds like double standards with the current action with tech companies.

harry86y ago

No not double standards. They are absolutely consistent standards. Zero principles. Pure profit motive. You don't have to run your company like that. This was a choice they have made. (Note that the profit motive isn't always the profit of the shareholders, it is the profit motive of the powerful inside the company).

Don't miss the point though. Cannot, under any circumstances be trusted. If they are sufficiently pressured they might do the right thing, or at least pretend to in public. Assume they are lying about everything until proven otherwise is a statement of the obvious.

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