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0 pointsmullingitover6y ago0 comments

> Forcing people to do work they don't want to do is bad because compulsory labor is bad

This is the same tired argument that every bigoted person whines about when they're 'forced' to treat human beings like human beings.

You'll be extremely relieved to know that nobody forced them to open a business that sells products and services to the general public. They made that choice. The only thing they are 'forced' to do is follow the extremely reasonable "don't discriminate" requirement.

If you really can't see it, there has to be some kind of observational defect in your model of the world.

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defen6y ago· 2 in thread

It's a fact, not disputed by either party, that he offered to sell them a generic cake or one with a different message. So it's not true that he denied them service "because" they were gay.

Thought experiment: Imagine an individual woman went into the store and said to him "My son is marrying his boyfriend this weekend. Can you make a custom cake for them?" The baker says no. Should that be illegal?

Thought experiment #2: Imagine an alt-right troll goes into a Jewish bakery and asks for a cake that says "Jesus is Lord". The baker says no. Should that be illegal?

mullingitoverOP6y ago

> So it's not true that he denied them service "because" they were gay.

So it's cool to discriminate if you offer something that's separate but equal?

defen6y ago

Sorry, I don't think this is a good-faith reply. Would you consider answering my thought experiment questions?

centimeter6y ago

> You'll be extremely relieved to know that nobody forced them to open a business that sells products and services to the general public.

Same goes for Twitter. By your logic, Twitter has no grounds to complain when Trump screws them over for censoring conservatives, because no one forced them to go into business.

Are you really thinking about this? I feel like you're just responding with bad-faith platitudes.

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