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0 pointsgeden15y ago0 comments

That approach is a risky one:

a) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6947744.stm

b) You are directly trying to impose your value over someone else's value, with the assumption that you are correct. One has to be very careful sure you are not just projecting your frustration at the littering. What they are doing is completely correct for their worldview, which has a boundary round about where their clothing is.

If someone litters at all then they probably haven't much of an awareness outside of their own egocentric POV and it seems quite unlikely that a single intervention by yourself is going to change that, unless they are a kid of less than ~ ten years of age.

I like to smile and pick the litter up as a gift. If they notice they notice, if they don't they don't.

0 pointsgeden15y ago0 comments

That approach is a risky one:

a) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6947744.stm

I like to smile and pick the litter up as a gift. If they notice they notice, if they don't they don't.

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lurker1915y ago· 2 in thread

1. The murder in that news story was not triggered by the anti-litter. It seems highly likely that he murderer was already out for blood.

2. Litter travels beyond the boundary of the litterer's clothing, so I do not see the consistency of your model.

mryan15y ago

> The murder in that news story was not triggered by the anti-litter. It seems highly likely that he murderer was already out for blood

What makes you think that? From the story it seems clear that the confrontation took place due to the victim questioning the murderer's right to throw litter in to his sister's car.

Sadly, young men who would kill over such a minor thing as this are not uncommon in London.

lurker1915y ago

I have difficulty imagining a person with the mindset "Violence is not the answer, excepting of course that I will fight to the death to defend a man's freedom to throw his trash in another person's car"

ekanes15y ago

> You are directly trying to impose your value over someone else's value, with the assumption that you are correct.

I feel this takes political correctness too far. What if someone else's values are that theft is fine, if they need something. If you see someone stealing a bike, should you do nothing because you don't want to impose your values on them?

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