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0 pointsiamcreasy5y ago0 comments

Could you please explain why?

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No OP, and I don't know much about game development, but "without any change at all" is too strong. SDL only does so much, and you still need platform-specific APIs for file access, networking (if applicable), threading, etc. So you'll still need platform-specific code until someone writes those abstractions in Swift.

iamcreasyOP5y ago

> SDL only does so much, and you still need platform-specific APIs for file access, networking (if applicable), threading, etc. So you'll still need platform-specific code until someone writes those abstractions in Swift.

Isn't that handled by the swift runtime?

By without any changes I meant, without platform-specific recompilation. Very similar to what java runtime provides for JAR.

mkl5y ago

You'll always need platform-specific recompilation for native executables, as the executable formats are different on different operating systems. The only exceptions are emulation systems like WSL and Wine.

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rahkiin5y ago

Swift Foundation is cross platform and provided by apple

RussianCow5y ago

Ah, that's great! I didn't realize Apple open sourced Foundation as well.

blondin5y ago

not OP either. but i think the problem is simple. apple said no to opengl, which any other platform out there supports.

btw, they are even deprecating opengl! i have no idea what that means for the tons of games written with an opengl backend. probably not an issue for the iOS ecosystem though.

so that's what is going on...

roblabla5y ago

OpenGL isn't relevant here, as SDL2 has a metal backend that's used by default on MacOS. See https://hg.libsdl.org/SDL/rev/1acae5590352

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thetinguy5y ago

Why would you want an old API like OpenGL when you can use Vulkan and Metal

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keyle5y ago

Two very different technology stacks and api calls.

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RussianCow5y ago

iamcreasyOP5y ago

Isn't that handled by the swift runtime?

By without any changes I meant, without platform-specific recompilation. Very similar to what java runtime provides for JAR.

mkl5y ago

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rahkiin5y ago

Swift Foundation is cross platform and provided by apple

RussianCow5y ago

Ah, that's great! I didn't realize Apple open sourced Foundation as well.

blondin5y ago

not OP either. but i think the problem is simple. apple said no to opengl, which any other platform out there supports.

btw, they are even deprecating opengl! i have no idea what that means for the tons of games written with an opengl backend. probably not an issue for the iOS ecosystem though.

so that's what is going on...

roblabla5y ago

OpenGL isn't relevant here, as SDL2 has a metal backend that's used by default on MacOS. See https://hg.libsdl.org/SDL/rev/1acae5590352

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thetinguy5y ago

Why would you want an old API like OpenGL when you can use Vulkan and Metal

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keyle5y ago

Two very different technology stacks and api calls.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse