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0 pointsgraham_paul5y ago0 comments

1. No, it is not. Chromium relies on binaries as well as calling Google's web services whose code you cannot read. That is why ungoogled-chromium is a thing

2. Not sure what your point is here. Mozilla needs to make money to maintain and improve its advocacy work

3. See point 1. You don't own or control Google's web services nor its domains therefore you have no full control of the build process if Google decides to shut down its services. If you want to see what community owned means, I suggest you look at the Python community. No hidden binaries or mysterious calls to corporate web services

4. Google's goal is to make money, Mozilla is to keep an open web. Obviously, Google has potential business conflicts while Mozilla doesn't, Mozilla wins even if it dies as long as the web is kept open, Google wins if it makes money full stop

You simply cannot compare them. Just look at Chrome in a fully Google-owned environment (Android), it does not even have extensions.

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kelnos5y ago

> Not sure what your point is here. Mozilla needs to make money to maintain and improve its advocacy work

I think the point is that Google could one day just say "hmm, we don't care about being the default search engine on Firefox anymore", decide to not renew the contract, and there's goes Mozilla's biggest source of revenue. With Firefox's market share as low as it is, I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen.

It's a bit risky when a large chunk of your revenue comes from a single company, and it's incredibly risky when that company is essentially a competitor.

ferzul5y ago

if mozilla dies, the open web is over. mozilla has been the champion of the open web through two browser monopolies and the five minutes in between. without them, all that is left is a the internet archive and wikipedia, neither of which can hold the web open.

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