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0 pointsmettamage5y ago0 comments

You're so off the mark with your comment, the only way my message might get through to you is by being very direct.

You're right, there are also a lot of people who are capable of simply going to sleep. But if you think that there isn't a sizeable group of people in society who have difficulty with this, then I have news for you.

You're wrong.

Also when I state I have issues with this for 25+ years, do you really think I haven't heard these type of comments or advice? Because if you think your comment is something that I have never heard before, or am not aware of, then I have news for you again.

You're wrong.

The reason I'm replying: you're either trolling (if so, touche) or you're serious. Since you have 500+ karma (aka leave some good comments), I simply wanted to give you this feedback. Because I know my stuff when it comes to sleep by (1) dealing with, by (2) studying the neurobiology of it in my psychology undergrad multiple times. Moreover, I know the group of people I fall in (the group that has trouble with sleep). I can't speak for them but I have an idea of how they feel and think since I'm recognizing what they say in my own experiences.

Read: Why we sleep from Matthew Walker, Phd

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new26285y ago

No worries, I am not hurt by directness, in fact I appreciate not sugarcoating an argument.

I was not trolling. For most of the stuff you list it is not clear at all that they have any effect in general, and if they do, it is not clear whether it is positive or negative, or of what kind. It is perfectly rational to be cautious with these things and fall back on things that have been tried and tested for millennia: spending time outdoors, fresh air, good eating, physical exercise.

I am not claiming that these would solve your specific problems, I am just putting out a list of tools. You have also done so, and someone naively browsing may try out either of the two sets. Mine has less chance of being harmful.

On sleeping there was also a very informative essay by the supermemo guy, good sleep good life, or something like that.

mettamageOP5y ago

Ah, now it makes sense. Thanks for the claryifing comment.

I agree that people shouldn't grab pills as a first resort. In my case, they are my last resort and only after circling around other resorts multiple times. I'm not a fan of pills.

In hindsight, I should've disclaimed in my main comment that I feel this is working for me. It was not intended as advice. I was simply talking about my side project (getting myself to sleep, so I can run in the morning).

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