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0 pointsSkyMarshal6y ago0 comments

Great idea, 100% agree. Let’s Chaos Monkey all the things, not just Netflix.

> Personally, I viewed that as a positive - a decently resilient economy would absorb such short-term shocks without any long-term issues.

That’s my sense of it too. The markets may fall in the short term, but as soon as the outbreak is stopped, roughly a month later, the markets will recover most or all of their losses.

Politicians so afraid of any stock market fall that they try to minimize the problem instead of treating the root of it are more likely to cause an even bigger market collapse.

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NotSammyHagar6y ago

Yes, it's terrible that politicians in the us at least were doing their utmost to say this isn't a real problem because they didn't want to hurt the stock market and impact their re-election changes. But there's another side to testing things to failure in the real world, people can die. There are vulnerable people of every stripe. Unlike me they may barely get enough food, barely be able to pay that apt that depends on people going to a restaurant, barely have a way to get their medical care.

Most people aren't as fortunate as us computer programmers. I can get a job in a few days, even with the corona virus, not true of restaurant workers. And even some of us in the "programmer class" are struggling.

Some stress testing is good, but how to do it without killing the vulnerable.

TeMPOraL6y ago

> Some stress testing is good, but how to do it without killing the vulnerable.

Less stress, more often. I think regular random border closures or brief, targeted disruptions of small parts of supply chains would do wonders to curb over-JIT-ting of the economy, while not hurting too many people too much.

That said, I worry it's too little - it doesn't address head-on the incentives that create vulnerable supply chains.

MR4D6y ago

We do that (kindof) with airports every time there is a hurricane.

Somehow that needs to be woven into a bigger fabric.

I wonder if there is a way to create simultaneous small pains randomly.

For instance, a hurricane and a cell phone outage would really suck.

NotSammyHagar6y ago

For the past few years we've had almost random border closures, I hadn't thought of it that way. But they do expose horrors, like the kidnappers that take people away when they are turned away from the us border into a hellhole or organized extortion or we kill you.

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0 pointsSkyMarshal6y ago0 comments

Great idea, 100% agree. Let’s Chaos Monkey all the things, not just Netflix.

> Personally, I viewed that as a positive - a decently resilient economy would absorb such short-term shocks without any long-term issues.

That’s my sense of it too. The markets may fall in the short term, but as soon as the outbreak is stopped, roughly a month later, the markets will recover most or all of their losses.

Politicians so afraid of any stock market fall that they try to minimize the problem instead of treating the root of it are more likely to cause an even bigger market collapse.

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NotSammyHagar6y ago

Some stress testing is good, but how to do it without killing the vulnerable.

TeMPOraL6y ago

> Some stress testing is good, but how to do it without killing the vulnerable.

That said, I worry it's too little - it doesn't address head-on the incentives that create vulnerable supply chains.

MR4D6y ago

We do that (kindof) with airports every time there is a hurricane.

Somehow that needs to be woven into a bigger fabric.

I wonder if there is a way to create simultaneous small pains randomly.

For instance, a hurricane and a cell phone outage would really suck.

NotSammyHagar6y ago

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