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0 pointss_y_n_t_a_x6y ago0 comments

I see. Alright, I'll let you continue whatever it is you think you're doing. A lot of what you said is opinion and a lot of scientists would disagree with your assertions (which are in my eyes pessimistic)

I do believe in this goal though as do others, you should respect other people's dreams, especially when it doesn't detract from yours.

I didn't say this was for short-term survival. This is for long-term survival, we still need to and we are tackling our own planet. Elon himself has disrupted many industries that were contributing to the destruction of this planet (auto, oil & gas)

If you want to help the planet, go help it, don't neg others.

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immmmmm6y ago

I have no problem that people follow their dreams, on the contrary, when it is done with respect to others.

The Starlink constellation, so far, is not respectful to people who want a clear sky for instance.

Regarding Mars, I don’t want to take your dreams back, I just think it has to be framed in a more global and long term context.

s_y_n_t_a_xOP6y ago

> The Starlink constellation, so far, is not respectful to people who want a clear sky for instance.

How do the feelings of a few astronomers trump connecting the rest of the world to the internet?

You're blowing things way out of proportion as well. You fell for all the aggressive attack campaigns. I've seen all the articles you've read, it's not a real issue.

> I just think it has to be framed in a more global and long term context.

What message from SpaceX did you take issue with exactly? I don't think anyone is suggesting we'll all be living on Mars in a few years.

immmmmm6y ago

Trump??? Is that a new Godwin point???

I suggest you read this article:

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2001.10952.pdf

As you can read there it will threaten our ability to detect dangerous objects. As well as other things.

We have optical fibers, common! Do you need to have Netflix in 8K on top of Kilimanjaro?

The issues I have with mars are:

1) the sheer scale of the project(s) (earth has limited ressources)

2) the lack of scientific framework

3) the arguments that it will be useful for survival

4) the very idea of people fleeing earth in time of major existential problems (climate & biodiversity)

So far it just looks to me like a holiday destination for the very rich. But glad if you can point me to some science that contradicts my view.

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0 pointss_y_n_t_a_x6y ago0 comments

I do believe in this goal though as do others, you should respect other people's dreams, especially when it doesn't detract from yours.

If you want to help the planet, go help it, don't neg others.

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immmmmm6y ago

I have no problem that people follow their dreams, on the contrary, when it is done with respect to others.

The Starlink constellation, so far, is not respectful to people who want a clear sky for instance.

Regarding Mars, I don’t want to take your dreams back, I just think it has to be framed in a more global and long term context.

s_y_n_t_a_xOP6y ago

> The Starlink constellation, so far, is not respectful to people who want a clear sky for instance.

How do the feelings of a few astronomers trump connecting the rest of the world to the internet?

You're blowing things way out of proportion as well. You fell for all the aggressive attack campaigns. I've seen all the articles you've read, it's not a real issue.

> I just think it has to be framed in a more global and long term context.

What message from SpaceX did you take issue with exactly? I don't think anyone is suggesting we'll all be living on Mars in a few years.

immmmmm6y ago

Trump??? Is that a new Godwin point???

I suggest you read this article:

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2001.10952.pdf

As you can read there it will threaten our ability to detect dangerous objects. As well as other things.

We have optical fibers, common! Do you need to have Netflix in 8K on top of Kilimanjaro?

The issues I have with mars are:

1) the sheer scale of the project(s) (earth has limited ressources)

2) the lack of scientific framework

3) the arguments that it will be useful for survival

4) the very idea of people fleeing earth in time of major existential problems (climate & biodiversity)

So far it just looks to me like a holiday destination for the very rich. But glad if you can point me to some science that contradicts my view.

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