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100 pointsJames872116y ago37 comments

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If nothing else this should do quite a lot to reduce carbon emissions, and I'm only half joking here.

Now if we could change fashion from fast fashion to focus on durability that would be an even bigger change. And it is not completely unrealistic:

While I have no hard and fast rule to go by on how exactly this could turn out I do sense a huge opportunity for one or more smaller brands to more or less utterly disrupt big chunks of the clothes manufacturing industry by providing reliable, repairable and nice garments.

Such efforts exist, but I'm waiting for something to hit mainstream:

- Nudie Jeans (expensive but not extremely expensive jeans) has repair spots :https://www.nudiejeans.com/repair-spots

- Norrøna (high end sports wear) repairs: https://www.norrona.com/en-GB/Help-me/Repairs/

- Alfa-for-life (trekking shoes, about $500 a pair) are replaceable part by part: https://alfaoutdoor.com/alfa-for-fe

As it it happens I work next to a Norrøna store, and they are serious about: When I was there there was a long row of garments waiting there, and some of them must be well above 20 years old based on how the logo and the style has changed over the years.

sliken6y ago

Heh, I'd settle for phones without epoxied in batteries.

A good start would be an iron clad right to repair law, making it illegal to include non-user replaceable batteries in any consumer electronics, and requiring anything cloud enabled to opensource the server side if they close the service.

majewsky6y ago

> requiring anything cloud enabled to opensource the server side if they close the service

That still won't help if a) the device talks to a fixed domain name or pins a particular TLS certificate or key, or if b) you get the code, but no instructions on how to build and run it.

Qub3d6y ago

There is hope: https://www.zdnet.com/article/eu-working-on-proposal-to-brin...

TeMPOraL6y ago

Agreed.

If anything, the virus just did a chaos monkey test on global supply chains. In the aftermath, it's going to be pretty apparent where the just-in-time approach caused most problems. I would really hope this would make some companies reevaluate their approach of cycling crap through consumers as fast as possible (e.g. fast fashion), but the cynic in me thinks they'll just chalk it up to a black swan and resume business as usual.

I wonder if money could be made (or if anyone is doing that already) by serving as a buffer/capacitor in the supply chain. I'm a layman in this space and don't even know what keywords to search to learn more; can anyone here tell me how people go about supply and price volatility reduction?

supercheetah6y ago

Patagonia is well known for repairing their stuff, and even helps customers sell their used clothes to others, but they're really expensive.

anonsivalley6526y ago

Awesome.

Columbia says they have a lifetime warranty, but a $300 running rain jacket I bought at their flagship store sometime ago they refused to repair or replace it when all of the inner liner started flaking off and it was no longer usable. I'm never buying anything from them again.

The most durable day-bag / school backpack I have ever owned was a Trager. It was needed because I went through 9 backpacks in high-school since our school didn't have lockers. Supposedly in the 70's pipe-bombs were detonated in them and the lockers created shrapnel. Anyhow, that backpack held 4-6 books like a champ. It had/has a lifetime warranty and they even replaced the zipper on a 10 year old product for free. Sadly, they're out of business now.

im3w1l6y ago

This may sound stupid but one reason I like disposable things is because I, fairly or unfairly, associate expensive repairable things with "all work and no play". No you can't do this or you'll scratch it. Can't do that or you'll dent it. Oh, of course you have to oil it every day how else will it last? And don't forget to iron the sleeves.

dredmorbius6y ago

High-quality durable practical goods wear their scars with pride.

It's the difference, though, between buying, say, fine china vs. a set of wooden or metal tableware. Or more typically in my experience, camping or outdoors gear, which gets rough use but remains highly functional.

eitland6y ago

I can see that.

Luckily for me a bit of wear and tear is considered OK with many of those products. I'd have far bigger problems if I tried to keep my shirts around for 5 years.

jbob20006y ago

This doesn't solve anything if the parts you replace are then thrown in the landfill. All you've done is spent a lot of resources and energy to turn around and throw stuff away anyways.

eitland6y ago

It does matter a lot if the 5% of a product end up in the landfill vs if 100% of it end up at the landfill.

It also matters a lot if one product end up at the landfill after 10 years or if one product end up at the landfill every year, resulting in ten products at the landfill during the same period.

asmosoinio6y ago

Wish each of these was a link to more info.

buboard6y ago

I vote against fist bumps and in favor of leg or butt bumps. (Highly unlikely to scratch your face with your butt )

praptak6y ago

Also elbow bump, aka "the Ebola handshake".

downerending6y ago

I think Netanyahu (sp?) just recommended the Indian "namaste" greeting (put your hands together and nod). Excellent idea.

em-bee6y ago

but you scratch both with your hands

skrebbel6y ago

I'm offended that the Eurovision Song Contest is missing.

rvschuilenburg6y ago

Considering the virus has reached the Netherlands since last Thursday and is spreading, it's only a matter of time.

b-3-n6y ago

Wish there would be some politicians on that list ;)

lostlogin6y ago

Just some?

teddyuk6y ago

I thought fyre festival might have made the list

factsaresacred6y ago

Nice, although would be nicer as a table so I wouldn't have to pointlessly scroll a dozen times.

Edit: scrolling is part of the shtick. Mi scuzi, mi scuzi!

izacus6y ago

You do understand it's meant as a joke right? :)

Zenst6y ago

That was my initial thoughts, though you would still end up hitting CTRL+F and searching.

All events I'm aware of that have been cancelled, they have sent out emails informing as such to those registered to attend.

hhhhhhh46y ago

Intel Extreme Masters - partly

People were told 15h before the event started that they cannot group like that, so arena was basically empty.

Jaruzel6y ago

This would be better as a smaller grid of 'cards', dashboard style, so I don't have scroll forever.

tzs6y ago

It would be better as a simple two column table in a simple HTML file with at most one small, simple, CSS file and no JavaScript.

I'm not a web guy, so don't know if this is common or not, but I've never seen a "body" tag (or any tag...) with this many attributes before:

luord6y ago

"No time to die" was postponed. Probably an "uh, oh".

angarg126y ago

At first I expected a list of Google services.

_Microft6y ago

The 'Google Graveyard' is at https://killedbygoogle.com

vidarh6y ago

It says a lot, doesn't it - it was what I expected too.

xg156y ago

Missing the soccer EM though

nunez6y ago

kubecon EU's been postponed, is that a yes or an uh-oh?

goldenkey6y ago

It's serendipitous that the 2nd item on the front page is: "Evidence of massive-scale emotional contagion through social networks"

And the coronavirus is pretty much a case of "Evidence of massive-scale biological contagion through capitalistic networks"

Capitalism is a greedy process, and the governments pretty much took what they could until they couldn't ignore it any more. I know that people need to work to eat, and capitalistic losses also mean losses of lives. But at the same time, I feel like the U.S and other countries were playing fast and loose while China was getting ganked by the virus. We should have showed more solidarity instead of acting like we are invincible. And now the retribution is hell to pay as the virus ravages large cities like NYC.

dekken_6y ago

People are greedy. Capitalism is not alive.

goldenkey6y ago

It's as alive as any institution, nothing special. We live in a culture of capitalism. All institutions are people driven. That won't change their perpetuation or phenomena though, only new ways of thinking and revised institutions can. So why do you point out this distinction -- to say people are greedy, the system isn't? I'm sorry but the system is alive... It _IS_ people.

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37 comments

eitland6y ago

If nothing else this should do quite a lot to reduce carbon emissions, and I'm only half joking here.

Now if we could change fashion from fast fashion to focus on durability that would be an even bigger change. And it is not completely unrealistic:

Such efforts exist, but I'm waiting for something to hit mainstream:

- Nudie Jeans (expensive but not extremely expensive jeans) has repair spots :https://www.nudiejeans.com/repair-spots

- Norrøna (high end sports wear) repairs: https://www.norrona.com/en-GB/Help-me/Repairs/

- Alfa-for-life (trekking shoes, about $500 a pair) are replaceable part by part: https://alfaoutdoor.com/alfa-for-fe

sliken6y ago

Heh, I'd settle for phones without epoxied in batteries.

majewsky6y ago

> requiring anything cloud enabled to opensource the server side if they close the service

That still won't help if a) the device talks to a fixed domain name or pins a particular TLS certificate or key, or if b) you get the code, but no instructions on how to build and run it.

Qub3d6y ago

There is hope: https://www.zdnet.com/article/eu-working-on-proposal-to-brin...

TeMPOraL6y ago

Agreed.

supercheetah6y ago

Patagonia is well known for repairing their stuff, and even helps customers sell their used clothes to others, but they're really expensive.

anonsivalley6526y ago

Awesome.

im3w1l6y ago

dredmorbius6y ago

High-quality durable practical goods wear their scars with pride.

eitland6y ago

I can see that.

Luckily for me a bit of wear and tear is considered OK with many of those products. I'd have far bigger problems if I tried to keep my shirts around for 5 years.

jbob20006y ago

This doesn't solve anything if the parts you replace are then thrown in the landfill. All you've done is spent a lot of resources and energy to turn around and throw stuff away anyways.

eitland6y ago

It does matter a lot if the 5% of a product end up in the landfill vs if 100% of it end up at the landfill.

It also matters a lot if one product end up at the landfill after 10 years or if one product end up at the landfill every year, resulting in ten products at the landfill during the same period.

asmosoinio6y ago

Wish each of these was a link to more info.

buboard6y ago

I vote against fist bumps and in favor of leg or butt bumps. (Highly unlikely to scratch your face with your butt )

praptak6y ago

Also elbow bump, aka "the Ebola handshake".

downerending6y ago

I think Netanyahu (sp?) just recommended the Indian "namaste" greeting (put your hands together and nod). Excellent idea.

em-bee6y ago

but you scratch both with your hands

skrebbel6y ago

I'm offended that the Eurovision Song Contest is missing.

rvschuilenburg6y ago

Considering the virus has reached the Netherlands since last Thursday and is spreading, it's only a matter of time.

b-3-n6y ago

Wish there would be some politicians on that list ;)

lostlogin6y ago

Just some?

teddyuk6y ago

I thought fyre festival might have made the list

factsaresacred6y ago

Nice, although would be nicer as a table so I wouldn't have to pointlessly scroll a dozen times.

Edit: scrolling is part of the shtick. Mi scuzi, mi scuzi!

izacus6y ago

You do understand it's meant as a joke right? :)

Zenst6y ago

That was my initial thoughts, though you would still end up hitting CTRL+F and searching.

All events I'm aware of that have been cancelled, they have sent out emails informing as such to those registered to attend.

hhhhhhh46y ago

Intel Extreme Masters - partly

People were told 15h before the event started that they cannot group like that, so arena was basically empty.

Jaruzel6y ago

This would be better as a smaller grid of 'cards', dashboard style, so I don't have scroll forever.

tzs6y ago

It would be better as a simple two column table in a simple HTML file with at most one small, simple, CSS file and no JavaScript.

I'm not a web guy, so don't know if this is common or not, but I've never seen a "body" tag (or any tag...) with this many attributes before:

luord6y ago

"No time to die" was postponed. Probably an "uh, oh".

angarg126y ago

At first I expected a list of Google services.

_Microft6y ago

The 'Google Graveyard' is at https://killedbygoogle.com

vidarh6y ago

It says a lot, doesn't it - it was what I expected too.

xg156y ago

Missing the soccer EM though

nunez6y ago

kubecon EU's been postponed, is that a yes or an uh-oh?

goldenkey6y ago

It's serendipitous that the 2nd item on the front page is: "Evidence of massive-scale emotional contagion through social networks"

And the coronavirus is pretty much a case of "Evidence of massive-scale biological contagion through capitalistic networks"

dekken_6y ago

People are greedy. Capitalism is not alive.

goldenkey6y ago

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