For instance, I didn't know what RStudio was, so I have to go to the address bar and remove the blog portion of the subdomain and the trailing url just to find out what the parent site is, instead of a simple link.
"Pet peeve" being a minor but incredibly annoying issue as opposed to a deal-breaker type of issue.
Especially in the tidyverse workshop yesterday.
- From my reading it's possible for a Benefit Corporation to still be taken over or bought out.
- Benefit Corporations can convert back to regular corporations (in contrast with most 501(c)3's which cannot convert to corporations except under very particular circumstances)
- Unlike a 501(c)3, the charter of a Benefit Corporation is not legally binding
It's not to say that being a Benefit Corporation is bad (or good), but rather to say that it's kind of meaningless. I believe people should judge a for profit company, which a Benefit Corporation is, by its leadership, not necessarily by its legal designation.
Fortunately the leadership at RStudio have made themselves trustworthy, at least by the fact that they're relatively transparent and most of their stuff is open source. I'd be curious to know why they just didn't become a non-profit. I assume the main reason is because they want to be able to raise capital more easily.
Source: https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2012/05/13/benefit-corporati...
Separately, I'm also a licensed (non-practicing) attorney; despite that, this isn't legal advice.
Some of the things you've said are correct, but are kind of skipping a few important steps.
Buyout: Any corporate buyout, particularly of a Delaware corporation, opens the board up to scrutiny and requires the consent of the corporate constituency. In JJ's presentation he cited Revlon which is an example of a dispute over a buyout by a major shareholder. So, yes, technically benefit corporations can be bought out, but they must approve of the buyout using the corporate governance rules of a benefit corporation.
Converting to a benefit corporation isn't easy- you pretty much require unanimous shareholder consent and it's fairly close to the amount of consensus you need to convert to a pure nonprofit. Same with converting back to an "any lawful business purpose" corporation. So again, yes it's possible, but it's very unlikely unless something convinces basically everyone with a stake that it's worthwhile.
I'm not sure where you're getting that PBC status is not legally binding- I didn't see anything like that in the Harvard link. Corporate purpose statements have a very real legal effect. Would you mind explaining more about this statement? I want to make sure I'm not mistaken.
Note that the article you cite was written a year before the Delaware Benefit Corporation Law was signed by the governor- so some of the things it says might be a little speculative based on the legal realities at the time.
If you want to learn more in depth, I can recommend "Benefit Corporation Law & Governance" by Frederick Alexander.
Etsy was the first type but they let their annual certification lapse, while RStudio is becoming the second type.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B_Corporation_(certification) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benefit_corporation
If I have one regret about the Tidyverse, it’s that Hadley and company don’t have a clone using Racket / Scheme as their tapestry. R got me into FP, but I feel like Racket is a more natural place for the ideas of the tidyverse.
A PBC is allowed (but not required) to make decisions that benefit the public but might not be beneficial for shareholders.
They absolutely are not, and Ford v. Dodge concerned the rights of shareholders, in particular minority shareholders, to not have the value of their positions intentionally devalued through actions of the corporation's management. In fact, in the first sentence of the very article you posted:
> At the same time, the case affirmed the business judgment rule, leaving Ford an extremely wide latitude about how to run the company.
As noted in the "Significance" section, value maximization is a legally-unprovable standard.
Due to the "business judgement" rule, the management of a for-profit company gets to do business just about any way they want without any legal constraint; all they need is some reasonable rationale for why it might somehow, in the long term, benefit shareholders.
This includes giving stuff away and selling stuff for a loss, as many unicorns do. It includes paying employees very well, as some companies do. It includes making donations to charity. It includes either sticking to their original business, or deciding to spend a lot of money breaking into a new business.
In practice, shareholder primacy happens less because of what's legally required and more because many companies have management and employees who are shareholders. If the company stock goes up, the employees do well, and this promotes a culture where people try to make the stock go up.
I have benefited a lot from R, Rstudio.
But what impact does this have? Are there legal remedies now available to users if they feel Rstudio has strayed from the charter?
fwiw, I have the impression that the team there is quite civic minded, so this is really a question about the law, and not some sort of implication about their motivation.
What I'd really love to see is more organizations considering a cooperative structure.
Cooperatives are 100% owned by their members (in the case of consumer cooperatives) or workers (in the case of worker-owned cooperatives). There are no outside shareholders, and so the pursuit of profit is not the ultimate goal; the happiness of the owners is. That certainly doesn't preclude making a healthy profit, but it does preclude short-sighted moves that eek out a temporary profit at the expense of the broader business.
Most people don't realize how widespread cooperatives already are. Every single credit union in the United States is a cooperative. Many insurance companies are cooperatives. The ShopRite chain of grocery stores and REI outdoor stores use a cooperative structure.
Of course, the downside is raising capital. But sometimes taking on debt is enough, and cooperatives can flourish in a variety of industries.
I've tended to associate PBCs with companies like Patagonia, Ben and Jerry's, etc.--ones that make physical things, rather make software (which seems more like intellectual property, to a degree? Mostly relevant in terms of material cost of reproduction). I'm curious to see what kind of impact this will have on their operations and direction, and if it might lead to a similar trend with other open-source-based corporations like Gitlab or Elastic.
Bringing up Gitlab in this regard is a very good point, especially after MS bought Github..
Under some interpretations - data generated in RStudio poisons whatever software project is using it, like GPL does with dependant code.
Is it possible that RStudio Inc. made a soft announcement that they later pulled for re-tooling? Or perhaps my memory is faulty and I did just hear about it through a back channel. Obviously this is something that takes time to plan and execute so it has been in the works for awhile.
I don't actually use RStudio itself (hurray for vim). Tidyverse is the obvious example of their contributions, but I don't mean just tidyverse (actually, there are some things that I don't like that much, like tibbles) [1]. I think a language like R really needs this kind of support due to its mantra: for statisticians, by statisticians. By that I mean that you should be able to get insights by sometimes only writing a handful of lines of code.
The ease of use of R, good libraries, nice graphs, and so forth is why I happily code in both R and Python.
[1] It seems like here is another thread about some objections to tidyverse: https://github.com/matloff/TidyverseSkeptic.
