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0 pointsinferiorhuman6y ago0 comments

Oh it was one of my neighbors, not a gang. ~$800 was the quote for a car with cheaper paint. This car has metallic paint (more expensive and more difficult to respray well), I'd be very surprised if I could find a competent shop to fix it for less than a grand.

https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/criminal-def...

https://www.shouselaw.com/burglary.html#2.3

I'm not a lawyer so here's how I interpreted these lawyers:

Petty theft is up to six months in jail + up to $1,000 fine. Prop 47 added a misdemeanor shoplifting statute with a max. incarceration to one year. Previously this was considered burglary where a defendant could be charged with either a misdemeanor (up to a year in jail) or felony (up to three or so years).

The existing burglary statute (which otherwise covered what is now called shoplifting) carries a sentence of up to one year in jail (misdemeanor) or more (felony). The gangs taking less than $950 worth of goods are taking advantage of police apathy. So, sure, maybe Prop 47 resulted in an increase in shoplifting/burglary. However, if the police were to see these things through repeat criminals would still be subject to the same felony statue as before.

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pandaman6y ago

I am not a lawyer too but, from what I know, the police do not prosecute crimes. They bring their reports to a DA who decides to charge or not. And the DAs, being an elected official and seeing what is the public opinion of these crimes from the prop 47, do not want to charge them. And if the DAs are not going to charge these crimes anyways there is no point for the police to catch the criminals.

inferiorhumanOP6y ago

The police don't prosecute crimes, correct. As long as they're not making arrests it's not even a matter of what the DA or judge does.

And if the DAs are not going to charge these crimes anyways there is no point for the police to catch the criminals.

And there it is. There is absolutely a point in making misdemeanor arrests. Making misdemeanor arrests allows the rest of society to focus on the next step in the process.

pandaman6y ago

So, in your opinion, the initiative comes from the police and DAs have not changed their charging based on prop 47?

Then, why did the police change their behavior in your opinion?

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0 pointsinferiorhuman6y ago0 comments

https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/criminal-def...

https://www.shouselaw.com/burglary.html#2.3

I'm not a lawyer so here's how I interpreted these lawyers:

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pandaman6y ago

inferiorhumanOP6y ago

The police don't prosecute crimes, correct. As long as they're not making arrests it's not even a matter of what the DA or judge does.

And if the DAs are not going to charge these crimes anyways there is no point for the police to catch the criminals.

And there it is. There is absolutely a point in making misdemeanor arrests. Making misdemeanor arrests allows the rest of society to focus on the next step in the process.

pandaman6y ago

So, in your opinion, the initiative comes from the police and DAs have not changed their charging based on prop 47?

Then, why did the police change their behavior in your opinion?

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