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0 pointsNikolaNovak6y ago0 comments

>>I can’t imagine paying $40,000+ on a new car that isn’t a Tesla right now

It's personal & subjective, and nobody will persuade anybody in a thread, but FWIW I absolutely positively can.

- I'm unlikely to utilize self-driving any time soon

- The stories of their firmware terrify me. And I don't want a DAW and computer games running on my ECU :O

- More pragmatically though, the Tesla UI paradigm is completely foreign to my way of driving/thinking.

I'm looking for a "HOTAS" type UI, where I can do anything I want without taking my eyes and focus off the road. A UI that's one giant screen, that may change position of buttons from minor firmware to another, is basically as scary and alienating concept as I can imagine.

I get that I am in a minority nowadays - a lot of manufacturer's are replacing switches, buttons and knobs with a touchscreen and deep menus, but not thankfully all just yet :|

0 pointsNikolaNovak6y ago0 comments

>>I can’t imagine paying $40,000+ on a new car that isn’t a Tesla right now

It's personal & subjective, and nobody will persuade anybody in a thread, but FWIW I absolutely positively can.

- I'm unlikely to utilize self-driving any time soon

- The stories of their firmware terrify me. And I don't want a DAW and computer games running on my ECU :O

- More pragmatically though, the Tesla UI paradigm is completely foreign to my way of driving/thinking.

I get that I am in a minority nowadays - a lot of manufacturer's are replacing switches, buttons and knobs with a touchscreen and deep menus, but not thankfully all just yet :|

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drcross6y ago· 1 in thread

Tesla's increasing have voice commands for most functions. What you said was true before but isn't now. Honestly this feature, being able to push updates to the entire fleet when ready is a significant killer feature.

NikolaNovakOP6y ago

Again, at the risk of sounding like a grouchy old man (which I suppose I am :P), when I'm chatting with my wife and kids, I have limited intetion of interrupting that conversation to turn on the lights or seat warmer or wipers or change a song :-/. And even when alone - the amount of time and subconscious effort to hit a button, vs converse with the computer...

Honestly - these shouldn't be "either or". Sure, have a screen and voice for those who prefer - but leave a button or six for us ol' timers :-)

pts_6y ago

They should look into how the US Navy switched back to physical switches from touch screens on ships for unambiguous commands.

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ogre_codes6y ago

> It's personal & subjective, and nobody will persuade anybody in a thread, but FWIW I absolutely positively can.

I wasn’t trying to paint a broad picture because as you suggest, it’s subjective. But there is some evidence that I’m not alone.

https://www.wheelsjoint.com/tesla-model-3-is-wreaking-havoc-...

> I'm looking for a "HOTAS" type UI, where I can do anything I want without taking my eyes and focus off the road.

I agree, the cockpit design on the Tesla is not my choice and may actually be a deal breaker. But since there is a 30 day no commitment period I’m willing to give it a shot and see how it works in actual use.

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