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0 pointsAngostura6y ago0 comments

If anyone else is facing the issue, here's how to deregister your number from iMessage:

https://selfsolve.apple.com/deregister-imessage/

Should be Job Done.

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It isn’t, though. Group MMSes are notoriously fickle, and doing something like sending a video to the group without it appearing in potato quality feels all but impossible at times. iMessage simply is better for group messaging.

Spivak6y ago

The fact that SMS group messages suck isn't something that Apple can really fix without an oob protocol which would basically be iMessage again.

untog6y ago

They could open up iMessage, which they originally said they were going to do, then stopped talking about it entirely. Even if they didn’t want to open it up they could make an iMessage Android app, like their Apple Music app.

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CoolGuySteve6y ago

I deregistered my number and I still have messages that are delivered to my iPad instead of my android phone. If it wasn’t for that iPad next to my bed, I would have lost contact with some people entirely.

What Apple’s doing should be fucking prosecuted by the FCC or FTC. It’s outrageous.

AngosturaOP6y ago

I suspect those messages mighty be using e-mail rather than phone number as the identifier.

CoolGuySteve6y ago

So what, if iMessage is the default SMS app and it sends to an unregistered iCloud account, it should either translate to SMS or give an error.

The last thing it should do is silently send a message to an inactive account such that it looks like I ghosted the person.

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dpkonofa6y ago

iPads don't have phone numbers so the person sending you the message is sending it to an Apple ID, not a phone number. This is working exactly the way it's supposed to.

CoolGuySteve6y ago

No, it's really not. If I unregister from iMessage the last thing that should happen is my Apple ID swallowing messages from people's iPhones.

Return an error or redirect to SMS, it's not that fucking hard.

The one thing you are right about is that it's an intentional dark pattern on Apple's part to obsfucate Apple IDs and phone numbers. It's an illegal anticompetitve strategy.

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untog6y ago

Spivak6y ago

The fact that SMS group messages suck isn't something that Apple can really fix without an oob protocol which would basically be iMessage again.

untog6y ago

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CoolGuySteve6y ago

What Apple’s doing should be fucking prosecuted by the FCC or FTC. It’s outrageous.

AngosturaOP6y ago

I suspect those messages mighty be using e-mail rather than phone number as the identifier.

CoolGuySteve6y ago

So what, if iMessage is the default SMS app and it sends to an unregistered iCloud account, it should either translate to SMS or give an error.

The last thing it should do is silently send a message to an inactive account such that it looks like I ghosted the person.

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dpkonofa6y ago

iPads don't have phone numbers so the person sending you the message is sending it to an Apple ID, not a phone number. This is working exactly the way it's supposed to.

CoolGuySteve6y ago

No, it's really not. If I unregister from iMessage the last thing that should happen is my Apple ID swallowing messages from people's iPhones.

Return an error or redirect to SMS, it's not that fucking hard.

The one thing you are right about is that it's an intentional dark pattern on Apple's part to obsfucate Apple IDs and phone numbers. It's an illegal anticompetitve strategy.

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