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0 pointsNicoJuicy6y ago0 comments

Perhaps your vision is too black and white. Russia still receives sanctions ( that hurts their economy) and Crimea has always been mostly Russians, with over 65% Russians.

None of them were actually part of the EU. Although i would have wished Ukraine would have been better off without Russia ( and more democracy). It's not that easy to make an objective opinion, Russia had way more to loose than any of us + 65% Russians in the country would have made it possible to make a democratic decision ( in theory)

Georgia, i'm not aware of that actually. It's seems to me that both were caused by oil for Russia. My statement about subsidizing renewable energy against Russia has only been proven right.

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baybal26y ago· 1 in thread

> Russia still receives sanctions

If they were afraid of sanctions (which, even at this level are a complete joke,) they wouldn't be doing military adventures which would set them as a target for them.

> It's not that easy to make an objective opinion, Russia had way more to loose than any of us + 65% Russians in the country would have made it possible to make a democratic decision ( in theory)

This sound to me as a Russian a complete nonsense. An average Russian couldn't have hated Russia more for what it is, let alone opting to jump into the "warm embrace of the fatherland" once they got out.

For Russians, Russians who ended up with Ukrainian, Baltic states, or even a some joke Central Asian passport after the collapse of the Union are seen as somebody very lucky.

And the talk of ethnic Russians in the West, let alone US and Canada ever thinking of returning to Russia is a complete joke. Sorry, but you read to much Pravda, I'm afraid. I can't get other words for that.

NicoJuicyOP6y ago

Since Europe is Russia's biggest trading partner, sanctions could be a lot worse. But that would also heavily influence the daily lives of a lot of Russians. Since Europe accounts for 46% of Russian exports.

I think you grossly underestimate the impact that heavy sanctions could have on the daily lives of Russians. The sanctions were NOT targetting the Russian people, but at making the lives of the responsibles less comfortable ( eg. the leaders/rich people).

And while Russia likes to publicly partner with China, they seem to forget that China literally does nothing for them (economically).

Edit ( since you adjusted your post):

Source:

https://ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/countries-and-regions/coun... ( trade )

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Crimea ( population of Crimea)

> This sound to me as a Russian a complete nonsense. An average Russian couldn't have hated Russia more for what it is, let alone opting to jump into the "warm embrace of the fatherland" once they got out.

I've only mentioned the spoken language in Crimea, not about the sentiment. Do not change my words, none of your last assumptions are correct and i don't even know Pravda ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Edit 2: I reread my comment, i did add "in theory" there, as I did not know much about the exact situation. I do agree, it could have been more clear.

But i did not say that they wanted to join Russia. I suggested ( or meant to) that there was a chance and that i did not know about the sentiment there.

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