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0 pointsgreggman26y ago0 comments

browser extesions are a privacy feature. my browsing is much more private on Firefox with ublock origin then on no extension safari.

As for Safari using less power and ram on mobile there is no evidence that Firefox would uae more of either since Apple doesn't allow it to run. As far as we know if other browsers were allowed to run some might compete on power and ram.

As for security, chrome on desktop has a superior track record. The CVE list proves this, so by denying competition Apple denies users more secure browsers.

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alwillis6y ago

> As for Safari using less power and ram on mobile there is no evidence that Firefox would uae more of either since Apple doesn't allow it to run. As far as we know if other browsers were allowed to run some might compete on power and ram.

Firefox is slower, requires more RAM and uses more power on macOS now; it’s highly unlikely that essentially the same engine running on iOS would run significantly differently.

Of the mainstream browsers on macOS, Firefox has always been the slowest.

alwillis6y ago

>browser extesions are a privacy feature. my browsing is much more private on Firefox with ublock origin then on no extension safari. All things being equal, you shouldn't have to rely on extensions in 2019 to protect your privacy.

The goal is to preserve privacy by default--no extensions required. The vast number of users don't install them or wouldn't know which ones to install.

Brave is secure out of the box and doesn't require extensions to protect your privacy: https://brave.com/features/

Safari also doesn't require extensions to protect your privacy: WebKit Tracking Prevention Policy—https://webkit.org/tracking-prevention-policy/

Apple first shipped Intelligent Tracking Prevention in June 2017, long before Firefox or any other browser had anything similar: https://webkit.org/blog/7675/intelligent-tracking-prevention...

greggman2OP6y ago

I know this false based on all the ads I see in webpages in Safari that I don't see when in Firefox with UBlock Origin. Every ad I see was served by the ad company. Safari might be blocking cookies but it's not letting me block the ads which is all that's really needed to track.

alwillis6y ago

Safari doesn’t block ads currently; that’s true.

Safari’s Intelligent Tracking Prevention stops the cross-site tracking, fingerprinting, etc. by ad companies.

The ability to block content is built-in to macOS and iOS for 3rd parties to use.

alwillis6y ago

Regarding performance, here’s a detailed article on benchmarks for the various Javascript engines; Firefox is the slowest: https://webkit.org/blog/8685/introducing-the-jetstream-2-ben...

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alwillis6y ago

Firefox is slower, requires more RAM and uses more power on macOS now; it’s highly unlikely that essentially the same engine running on iOS would run significantly differently.

Of the mainstream browsers on macOS, Firefox has always been the slowest.

alwillis6y ago

The goal is to preserve privacy by default--no extensions required. The vast number of users don't install them or wouldn't know which ones to install.

Brave is secure out of the box and doesn't require extensions to protect your privacy: https://brave.com/features/

Safari also doesn't require extensions to protect your privacy: WebKit Tracking Prevention Policy—https://webkit.org/tracking-prevention-policy/

Apple first shipped Intelligent Tracking Prevention in June 2017, long before Firefox or any other browser had anything similar: https://webkit.org/blog/7675/intelligent-tracking-prevention...

greggman2OP6y ago

alwillis6y ago

Safari doesn’t block ads currently; that’s true.

Safari’s Intelligent Tracking Prevention stops the cross-site tracking, fingerprinting, etc. by ad companies.

The ability to block content is built-in to macOS and iOS for 3rd parties to use.

alwillis6y ago

Regarding performance, here’s a detailed article on benchmarks for the various Javascript engines; Firefox is the slowest: https://webkit.org/blog/8685/introducing-the-jetstream-2-ben...

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse