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0 pointsBud6y ago0 comments

Except I have set up 100 of those X1 ThinkPads, and I can tell you that the display, in addition to being the stupid too-wide PC aspect ratio, isn't close in quality to what you get with a MB Pro. And as previously mentioned, the trackpad isn't close to Apple's all-glass trackpads, either. And the audio is laughable. And the case isn't as sturdy. And it doesn't have 4 Thunderbolt 3 ports, of course (although some prefer the selection of ports that Lenovo provides).

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kapilvt6y ago

I was referencing x1 extreme gen2 (aka this year) not last years model to compare to a today's brand new MacBook pro. re screen, to quote..

"My initial impression of the 500-nit panel on the X1E Gen 2, however, is that it’s a clear and straightforward upgrade in every way."

https://www.ultrabookreview.com/31168-lenovo-thinkpad-x1-ext...

and thats not even the oled option

https://www.techeblog.com/lenovo-x1-extreme-gen-2-laptop-rev...

bonus upgradable parts (ssd x 2, memory)

again its not a hw comparison per se, its a price (1-2k discount on hw) vs os sw. re sturdy its mil spec (810g), re ports its 2 usb-c/tbird plus no dongles (cause you have all the ports, hdmi, usb 3.1a x2, ethernet, sd). agreed re trackpad, but Thinkpad users I've noticed (linux mostly) tend towards the trackpoint/nipple to the point of disabling trackpad.

all that said I'm probably getting the MacBook due to apps, but the walled garden on graphics and ml as well as reasonable linux support gives me pause.

random aside, what did Nvidia do that apple won't talk to them..

BudOP6y ago

Just a little side note to correct your facts: no, the x2 extreme gen2 does not have ethernet.

And if you think a trackpoint is any kind of substitute for a real trackpad, well, that's a joke.

nikau6y ago

> Just a little side note to correct your facts: no, the x2 extreme gen2 does not have ethernet.

Incorrect - it does not have a RJ45 connector, but it does have Ethernet, it just requires a dongle which may or may not come with the machine depending on the region its purchased in.

The benefit of the on board Ethernet is the fact you can PXE boot over it and other enterprise management benefits you don't get with a USB Ethernet adapter.

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