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0 pointsben77996y ago0 comments

64GB RAM is like "hallelujah". Doing enterprise dev with Docker + Java is pretty horrible with 16GB on my 2017 MBP.

The fact that this review didn't even once mention the fact that this machine is now thicker & bigger and yet they didn't add any useful ports back in is amazing.

I still hate that the 2017 one I have has only USB-C + Headphone jack. I appreciate that it still has the headphone jack.

But at our office we all got OWC Thunderbolt 3 Docks @ $300/desk and the whole experience sucks.

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fjp6y ago

I have the 15" with 32gb and I thought docker was making my laptop shit the bed - screens flickering all the time, mouse barely moving, etc.

It turned out to be docker plus Firefox (current version/Quantum yada yada) that was too much - I can't stop using all this docker stuff but I switched to Safari and haven't had any problems at all

kitsunesoba6y ago

Both Chrome and Firefox are much more demanding than many realize. It’s gotten to the point that they should consider a feature freeze and focus on nothing but efficiency and performance for the next few years.

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pwthornton6y ago

I'd get an external display with a dock built-in. I have the new 4k LG one at my desk, and I love needing only one cable to connect to my MBP when I'm at my desk. It even handles power.

whalesalad6y ago

My 15” has 32gb of memory and 4 usb-c ports. I’m excited too, but you could have alleviated your problems a year ago.

Aperocky6y ago

Get a cloud desktop, a cleaner environment that will likely be closer to what production look like.

The mac only need to be powerful enough to run the IDE.

gatherhunterer6y ago

Then you have to pay for cloud processing. Owning your hardware is an investment that pays off more than ever now that things like Kubernetes’ resource provisioning can escalate costs to the stratosphere even when the nodes are not doing any real work.

I think my next Mac will be whatever laptop still has all of its keys and I’ll just keep building machines to run linux with a one-step Kubernetes solution for development clusters. Many people don’t want to assemble machines and that makes a beefy laptop running Minikube the easiest solution to dodge cloud costs outside of production.

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hinkley6y ago

It's still one of my goals to be able to get half a dozen devs in a room and be able to emulate most of our infrastructure on those 6 machines, for purposes of prototyping and debugging.

charlesju6y ago

What are you using that isn't USB C/Bluetooth at this point? Honest question.

Rebelgecko6y ago

Literally every single TV or projector I've ever given a presentation on

Ethernet

(micro-)SD card

Keyboard

Mouse

Displays

Flashing microcontrollers (technically could be done over BT but it is a pain in the ass)

Gamepad

I've bought dongles/docking stations for all of these devices but it is a huge hassle when traveling, which is a use case a laptop should be able to excel at. Adding just a single USB-A port and HDMI would be a complete gamechanger for me. Apple wouldn't be able to sell as many of their $70 dongles though.

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mantap6y ago

Not OP but I don't own a single device that uses USB-C. Every USB device I have uses USB-A, including a mouse I bought last month.

abstractbarista6y ago

(I'm not an Apple user.) I routinely simultaneously use all of the following:

Ethernet, 1-2 USB Type A, SD Card, 3.5mm audio, DisplayPort, (while charging too).

As we can see, Apple's 'Pro' products simply do not work me.

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stagger876y ago

Keyboard, mouse, speakers, monitor, USB hub, printer, thumb drive, ext hard drive, SD card, uC programmer, test equipment (scopes, power meters).

That is just what is plugged in to my computer right now, (all USB type A)

lostgame6y ago

All of them? I don’t have a single device that uses USB-C.

How about iPhones, as a great example? :P

expectsomuch6y ago

Inexpensive monitors. USB keys. Older external drives. Ethernet. Office realities.

irrational6y ago

None of my peripherals or other things I need to hook up to like projectors are usb c/bluetooth. I need converters for everything.

jeffshek6y ago

I was pleasantly surprised about the 64gb also. Same issue with Docker making me want to upgrade.

This has the largest battery possible under TSA regulations.

frozenport6y ago

The MSI and ThinkPads have had four ram slots for years...

You can easily upgrade to 128 gb on these models.

keymone6y ago

Any port that isn’t usb-c has to die and I’m glad Apple is contributing to this.

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fjp6y ago

I have the 15" with 32gb and I thought docker was making my laptop shit the bed - screens flickering all the time, mouse barely moving, etc.

It turned out to be docker plus Firefox (current version/Quantum yada yada) that was too much - I can't stop using all this docker stuff but I switched to Safari and haven't had any problems at all

kitsunesoba6y ago

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pwthornton6y ago

I'd get an external display with a dock built-in. I have the new 4k LG one at my desk, and I love needing only one cable to connect to my MBP when I'm at my desk. It even handles power.

whalesalad6y ago

My 15” has 32gb of memory and 4 usb-c ports. I’m excited too, but you could have alleviated your problems a year ago.

Aperocky6y ago

Get a cloud desktop, a cleaner environment that will likely be closer to what production look like.

The mac only need to be powerful enough to run the IDE.

gatherhunterer6y ago

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hinkley6y ago

It's still one of my goals to be able to get half a dozen devs in a room and be able to emulate most of our infrastructure on those 6 machines, for purposes of prototyping and debugging.

charlesju6y ago

What are you using that isn't USB C/Bluetooth at this point? Honest question.

Rebelgecko6y ago

Literally every single TV or projector I've ever given a presentation on

Ethernet

(micro-)SD card

Keyboard

Mouse

Displays

Flashing microcontrollers (technically could be done over BT but it is a pain in the ass)

Gamepad

2 more replies

mantap6y ago

Not OP but I don't own a single device that uses USB-C. Every USB device I have uses USB-A, including a mouse I bought last month.

abstractbarista6y ago

(I'm not an Apple user.) I routinely simultaneously use all of the following:

Ethernet, 1-2 USB Type A, SD Card, 3.5mm audio, DisplayPort, (while charging too).

As we can see, Apple's 'Pro' products simply do not work me.

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stagger876y ago

Keyboard, mouse, speakers, monitor, USB hub, printer, thumb drive, ext hard drive, SD card, uC programmer, test equipment (scopes, power meters).

That is just what is plugged in to my computer right now, (all USB type A)

lostgame6y ago

All of them? I don’t have a single device that uses USB-C.

How about iPhones, as a great example? :P

expectsomuch6y ago

Inexpensive monitors. USB keys. Older external drives. Ethernet. Office realities.

irrational6y ago

None of my peripherals or other things I need to hook up to like projectors are usb c/bluetooth. I need converters for everything.

jeffshek6y ago

I was pleasantly surprised about the 64gb also. Same issue with Docker making me want to upgrade.

This has the largest battery possible under TSA regulations.

frozenport6y ago

The MSI and ThinkPads have had four ram slots for years...

You can easily upgrade to 128 gb on these models.

keymone6y ago

Any port that isn’t usb-c has to die and I’m glad Apple is contributing to this.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse